DBAHO Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 We were ranked behind Oakland, Seatlle, da Twinkies and the Yanks. 5. Chicago White Sox You don't normally think much of bullpens with no set closer. But this might be the exception. Tom Gordon, the right-handed half of the closer platoon, is averaging 11 strikeouts per nine innings and has given up one run since Aug. 6. Damaso Marte, the left-handed half, has a 1.66 ERA (lowest of any left-hander in the league) and is allowing 5.7 hits per nine innings (also the best of any left-hander in the league). And there are sure worse set-up casts than this one (funky left-hander Kelly Wunsch, the versatile Scott Schoeneweis and deposed closer Billy Koch), too. What players/scouts say: "The difference between their bullpen and the Yankees' is that their bullpen has performed. The Yankees' pen has not performed." ... "They've far exceeded my expectations. Marte has been good for a couple of years now. Gordon has pitched with a vengeance. Schoeneweis is a guy they can bring in early if they have to. And Wunsch is a good situation guy." ... "Tom Gordon has made himself a lot of money next year as somebody's closer." Although after tonite I don't know if there they're gonna take back their statement bout Koch. Nice to see Marte gettin some props though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 We were ranked behind Oakland, Seatlle, da Twinkies and the Yanks. 5. Chicago White Sox You don't normally think much of bullpens with no set closer. But this might be the exception. Tom Gordon, the right-handed half of the closer platoon, is averaging 11 strikeouts per nine innings and has given up one run since Aug. 6. Damaso Marte, the left-handed half, has a 1.66 ERA (lowest of any left-hander in the league) and is allowing 5.7 hits per nine innings (also the best of any left-hander in the league). And there are sure worse set-up casts than this one (funky left-hander Kelly Wunsch, the versatile Scott Schoeneweis and deposed closer Billy Koch), too. What players/scouts say: "The difference between their bullpen and the Yankees' is that their bullpen has performed. The Yankees' pen has not performed." ... "They've far exceeded my expectations. Marte has been good for a couple of years now. Gordon has pitched with a vengeance. Schoeneweis is a guy they can bring in early if they have to. And Wunsch is a good situation guy." ... "Tom Gordon has made himself a lot of money next year as somebody's closer." Although after tonite I don't know if there they're gonna take back their statement bout Koch. Nice to see Marte gettin some props though. oh just wonderful... how nice it is to be ranked below all the teams we have to beat to make it in the world series ......the fun never ends does it..... what i would have given for a good #5 tonite .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 We were ranked behind Oakland, Seatlle, da Twinkies and the Yanks. 5. Chicago White Sox You don't normally think much of bullpens with no set closer. But this might be the exception. Tom Gordon, the right-handed half of the closer platoon, is averaging 11 strikeouts per nine innings and has given up one run since Aug. 6. Damaso Marte, the left-handed half, has a 1.66 ERA (lowest of any left-hander in the league) and is allowing 5.7 hits per nine innings (also the best of any left-hander in the league). And there are sure worse set-up casts than this one (funky left-hander Kelly Wunsch, the versatile Scott Schoeneweis and deposed closer Billy Koch), too. What players/scouts say: "The difference between their bullpen and the Yankees' is that their bullpen has performed. The Yankees' pen has not performed." ... "They've far exceeded my expectations. Marte has been good for a couple of years now. Gordon has pitched with a vengeance. Schoeneweis is a guy they can bring in early if they have to. And Wunsch is a good situation guy." ... "Tom Gordon has made himself a lot of money next year as somebody's closer." Although after tonite I don't know if there they're gonna take back their statement bout Koch. Nice to see Marte gettin some props though. oh just wonderful... how nice it is to be ranked below all the teams we have to beat to make it in the world series ......the fun never ends does it..... what i would have given for a good #5 tonite .. Of all the offensive acquistitions the White Sox made, not dealing for a bonafide 5th starter is going to kill the White Sox down the stretch..... especially if we have to go with Danny Wrong again. How many contenders in the AL were starting AAer's in August that had no business being up here in the first place? Silly me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 Although after tonite I don't know if there they're gonna take back their statement bout Koch. I don't see how any legit sportswriter can have anything positive to say about Botch this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaiza21 Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 Koch Blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 How the hell are we behind the Yanks Our bullpen might have given up more runs, but the Yanks have blown far more leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 Our pen is better then the Yanks. Only reason the Yanks would be higher, imo, is because they have a go to closer thats proven to be clutch in the postseason. I must disagree with this though, Angels pen is freaking awesome and I don't see it there so this must be of the teams potentially going into the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 We were ranked behind Oakland, Seatlle, da Twinkies and the Yanks. 5. Chicago White Sox You don't normally think much of bullpens with no set closer. But this might be the exception. Tom Gordon, the right-handed half of the closer platoon, is averaging 11 strikeouts per nine innings and has given up one run since Aug. 6. Damaso Marte, the left-handed half, has a 1.66 ERA (lowest of any left-hander in the league) and is allowing 5.7 hits per nine innings (also the best of any left-hander in the league). And there are sure worse set-up casts than this one (funky left-hander Kelly Wunsch, the versatile Scott Schoeneweis and deposed closer Billy Koch), too. What players/scouts say: "The difference between their bullpen and the Yankees' is that their bullpen has performed. The Yankees' pen has not performed." ... "They've far exceeded my expectations. Marte has been good for a couple of years now. Gordon has pitched with a vengeance. Schoeneweis is a guy they can bring in early if they have to. And Wunsch is a good situation guy." ... "Tom Gordon has made himself a lot of money next year as somebody's closer." Although after tonite I don't know if there they're gonna take back their statement bout Koch. Nice to see Marte gettin some props though. oh just wonderful... how nice it is to be ranked below all the teams we have to beat to make it in the world series ......the fun never ends does it..... what i would have given for a good #5 tonite .. Of all the offensive acquistitions the White Sox made, not dealing for a bonafide 5th starter is going to kill the White Sox down the stretch..... especially if we have to go with Danny Wrong again. How many contenders in the AL were starting AAer's in August that had no business being up here in the first place? Silly me Problem is none of the AL Central has a fifth starter. Hell the Tigers don't even have a first starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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