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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    So the data they speak about in the first 15 minutes - number of people tested, % of those people testing positive, and then deaths, all extrapolated out to the total population - is wrong based on what you've seen?
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    Lol, you considered it for less than 5 minutes. So typical. "Does not fit my narrative, immediately ignore."
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    Very long, but an interesting perspective here.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    My secretary and her family all got it this weekend. Well, at least one confirmed this weekend, but they all had/have the same symptoms for the last couple weeks (gradually increasing in severity). Despite Trump's promise that anyone who wants a test can get one, only one of them could get tested because she was ultimately admitted to the hospital. The other two were not admitted, and the hospital staff explained that they could not waste a test on someone who was not admitted. One of them also went to the ER a week ago with the same symptoms, and instead of being tested, they were chastised for coming to the ER to begin with. Communication on this issue is really piss poor at basically every level it sounds like.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    A lot of this economic disruption is short term though. Once businesses can operate again, most of those jobs will come back. Sure, not all will, not all businesses will re-open, and for those that do, it may take some time to get back to where they were before this. But the reason the economy is tanking is not because the fundamentals are bad. It's because the government literally told people to stop going to work.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    But you won't see that on a personal level like after 9/11. Businesses may clean more, for example, but that's behind the scenes. Travel won't change for the average person (I can't see them implementing mandatory health checks for each flight...they aren't even doing that in the height of the pandemic). And yeah, hopefully the government takes this seriously and keeps a pandemic response/biological security team in place, but we had that just a few years ago and no one thought about it. On a personal, day to day level, this doesn't compare to the effects of 9/11 except for the disruption which I grant you will be months, not weeks.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    A fluke terrorist attack that changed how we travel, how we conduct business, how we manage our security, etc. We created a whole new division of our government/military because of it. Our entire worldview changed because of it. You think we'll keep practicing social distancing after this? Buying more delivery/curbside food? You think sports leagues will close forever? The only change I see sticking is being more mindful of washing our hands. Maybe telecommuting will be more common (businesses have now been forced to try it and they'll likely see productivity doesn't drop at all). That's about it.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    The economic impact is historical for sure, but similar to the great depression (assuming we get to that point). 675k people died in the US from the spanish flu so....this isn't even the worst pandemic for our country, let alone the worst crisis in general. And frankly the number of deaths doesn't make a crisis more or less "historical." 9/11 had 3k or less victims and to me, that was more of a crisis than this. It literally changed every aspect of our lives and still does. This coronavirus is going to be a short term, "boy that was a weird couple of months!" blip. As soon as this passes we'll go right back to how we were before (with hopefully a better procedure/practice for preventing the next one). Again, when you overstate the problem, people discount it. Why even talk in such extremes? It's a serious fucking problem. That's all that needs to be said.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    This right here is why you have the hoax/conspiracy nuts. Young people (under 30) have a terrible understanding of history and how society today compares. So when you say crap like this, the Trump supporter who is 65-75 and has seen some worse shit (e.g., being forced to go to war vs. being forced to stay home and watch TV all day) immediately discounts it. This isn't the most dire crisis this country has faced. It probably doesn't even rank in the top 5. It's a serious, serious problem though and overstating it's seriousness is just as detrimental as understating it.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    So what's the running theory on why the European countries have such a higher mortality rate than the US? Stronger strain of the virus?
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    Trump can talk all he wants about this but states have taken the lead and continue to do so. My guess is if the medical community is saying we're not ready by Easter, Cuomo, Pritzker, Newsom, etc. will extend the shelter-in-place orders.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    That should absolutely be part of this stimulus. They were able to restrict Trump (and WH and Congressional staff/family) from getting this money, they should also exclude any company that has dodged federal laws/taxes in the last decade.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    I don't believe for a second China has beat this or has it under control. There are probably thousands or tens of thousands of bodies buried somewhere. The country that lied about this to start is now telling us the truth on their numbers? No chance.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    I agree!
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    At some point in the next couple weeks, we're going to have to have the conversation I brought up a week or two ago - whether these short term efforts are going to end up making things worse in the long term. 50% unemployment? Everyone on the government payroll? Economic shutdown until June? We're going to turn into a true nanny/socialist state with no hope of going back...
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    Policy choices and even timing of those choices aside, the absolute worst part of Trump is the manner in which he is addressing the nation. He is clearly flying by the seat of his pants. As soon as he speaks, everyone behind him (the actual grown-ups in the room) start shuffling in disbelief. He then exits the stage and the adults correct him and provide the calm, level-headed, truth that the country needs. Today's slip that the 15-day guideline could go into August set the market spiraling. In fact each time he talks the market has tanked except for Friday. I don't understand why Trump is even talking publicly. Let this Dr. Fauci guy run the show, including all press conferences. Name him the pandemic czar and be done with it. The market, and country in general, will be so much better off. The bolded is an interesting take since state governments have been leading the charge here. The WH is merely reacting to the news and copying states like California, Washington and New York, only 12-24 hours later.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    I can't imagine they'd close gas stations. They need delivery services to continue operating if we really do get shut down for a number of weeks.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    My family is supposed to go on spring break to Florida on Friday. Driving to a remote-ish island off the panhandle to a beach house we rented for the week. Not sure what to do now. We can quarantine ourselves there, be around way, way, way less people, and also save the non-refundable money I paid for the rental. But we also have the chance of being stuck there if a true shutdown starts (which may not be bad, but would be expensive if we had to pay the going rate for the rental).
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    Yeah this is the crap we DON'T need right now. Unverified rumors. This just creates unnecessary panic.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    I bet the court system is next.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    Social distancing doesn't work when everyone and their mother is out shopping 😡
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    Doesn't China have a HUGE smoking problem? Maybe pre-existing problems get enhanced by the virus.
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    2019-2020 NCAA Basketball thread

    Illinois goes another year without appearing in the tournament. Dammit! They should at least do the selection show..... come on, man.
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    WTF? Haven't you been complaining about people going out into public unnecessarily?
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    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    How many millions died as a result of the great depression? If this is where a total shutdown gets us - which is what you seem to be advocating for - what's the point?
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