MeanJoeCrede
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17 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said:
Lindor's probably going to the Dodgers or Mets or Yankees. Outside chance maybe the Angels or Phillies?
But why can't we make a crazy move like this. I have 0 faith the W'sox get it done, but whatever
Well, because it would be crazy, as in stupid crazy. TA may not be the better player (debatable, at least for this White Sox team), but adding Lindor's salary is 100% counterproductive and doesn't make any damn sense. At least try and come up with something that makes a tiny bit of sense.
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33 minutes ago, hi8is said:
Damn.
I assume this means you had your heart set on Dave Duncan coming along?
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1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:
The owner putting his nuts on the line by making an all in move like this has to viewed as a good thing.
Jerry? Is that you? There is no possible way to spin this into a good thing.
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13 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said:
1) Do you have any idea how much better a healthy Chris Sale is than Keuchel? A significant upgrade is in itself a purpose.
2) Adding more SP I already addressed. By sending out Keuchel's salary we could theoretically also still add another SP this offseason. IMO Bauer and Stroman both, and also maybe Gausman, are better than Keuchel. Paxton and Tanaka if healthy are also better. There are some real options to make 2 improvements over the guy that Keuchel will be in 2021 through 2023.
3) McCann is a FA. We maybe can have him back if we want him but he's the biggest C target on the FA market IMO, because only Realmuto is better, but because Realmuto is actually great and will want lots of money and years, only a handful of teams will even bother to bid on him, leaving McCann as the best C target available most likely for most teams. Even if we could sign him back, Vazquez is a most likely a better player on paper, and Vazquez is already on a much better (and cheaper) contract than McCann will get as a FA.
Sale had Tommy John surgery on March 30. He will not pitch a full season in 2021.
Sale will cost more money in 2021 than Keuchel. That would potentially limit what the Sox could spend on additional pitching.
McCann being a FA is the least of why the Sox will not trade Grandal. Vazquez brings nothing to the table.
And thats not even addressing the Red Sox side of the whole equation.
This trade proposal is not the worst I've ever seen, but it is definitely a strong contender.
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12 minutes ago, fathom said:
Sox were better than the A’s in my opinion. How many positions were the A’s better than the Sox? Sox just choked in game 3, end of story
3rd starter?
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This is Jerry helping get his buddy's name back out there. Interview gives Hahn and KW a chance to listen to some Boston and St Louis perspectives from the past few years. Doesn't hurt, but also doesnt mean there's a chance in hell he's hired.
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7 hours ago, bmags said:
All the best managers recently were largely first time managers as it's moved from getting someone who knows baseball to letting the FO handle that and get a guy the players trust and respect.
The superstar manager is dead, sox don't need one. If they really want previous experience, LAD bench coach Bob Geren who has held the role for the WS appearing mets and now dodgers after an unsuccessful run as As manager during the 07-11 years.
But I stand by wanting Quatraro.
I'm with you on Quatraro. I would much rather have a current member of the Ray's organization to be our fresh eyes than a former member of the dysfunctional Astros organization.
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1 minute ago, Orlando said:
I'm certain that logic = no Bauer.
Sox have never spent on a pitcher on Bauer's level especially at #1 in the FA market. Hinch or no Hinch, that ain't happening. Also Bauer said he'd even listen to the Astros if they wanted him.
Like Hahn said yesterday, alot of the Sox never haves have been thrown out the window lately.
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Just now, SonofaRoache said:
Yes, but is one year of Bauer worth more than 5 years of Hinch and a quality number 2 or 3 arm? And a better shot at getting Springer? I don't think so personally.
A quality 2 or 3 arm is something Sox can get with or without Hinch. A quality 1 or maybe 2 is what we need. Hiring Hinch takes at least 1 option off the table and who knows how many others won't want to play for him. Still don't think Sox pay for Springer regardless of who the manager is, and having an in with Springer isn't as important as upgrading the top of the Sox rotation.
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4 minutes ago, bmags said:
I think you should speak with less certainty here
I'm certain that Hinch = No Bauer
I'm also certain that Bauer is the only top of market free agent pitcher available.
I guess I am not certain that a trade could net the Sox a 1 or 2 starter, if that helps?
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2 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:
I honestly don't know how hiring Hinch, someone with actual championship experience which is way different than anything the Sox have ever done, leads you to believe that it will end up being same old same old.
simply firing RR and Cooper should show you immediately that this is not the same and should not be judged as the same as anything this regime has ever done.
My point was that Hinch= no Bauer
No Bauer= same old white sox upgrades to the pitching staff, as in bounce back candidates, middle market, not top of market
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Bottom line, Bauer and pitching in general will have a much more significant impact on the White Sox ability to win titles moving forward than Hinch or any other manager ever will. I want Bauer more than I want Hinch. Hiring Hinch means no Bauer, and likely means much less appealing and much more Same Old White Sox options for the rotation "upgrades".
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4 minutes ago, MeanJoeCrede said:
Of all the people being mentioned, this is the ONE guy I hope Hahn meant when he said what he said about waiting til after the World Series.
Well, I just checked and Cash is under contract through 2024, with an option for 2025. So much for that...
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1 minute ago, GermanSoxFan said:
Kevin Cash 🙏
Of all the people being mentioned, this is the ONE guy I hope Hahn meant when he said what he said about waiting til after the World Series.
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1 hour ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:
Most of my takes are correct, but people focus on a select few due to the fake news moderators that slander my name around here
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This deal is a non-starter. This solves none of the Red Sox current problems and creates a whole new set of problems for them with their fan base.
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3 hours ago, beautox said:
Harper's contract is roughly 274M not including signing bonuses; and hes projected to produce 284M in value at 35.5 fWAR, so his surplus value is likely more than 10M when you factor in inflation. If Philadelphia is going to rebuild I'd welcome him on this team seeing how most of the core is locked up. The question then becomes how much if any is Philly willing to kick in to move his contract and could we also get Wheeler added into the mix?
Wouldn't acquiring Harper now be roughly the same as if the Sox had won the Machado sweepstakes? Not that I think there's a chance in hell Harper happens, but as fans we can't be expected to believe that "the money was spent". Grandal and Keuchel and all the one year fillers were gonna need to happen regardless of a Manny acquisition.
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21 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:
Imagine this lineup with Bryce Harper and Andrew Vaughn in it... Good lord that would be insane.
Imagine how badly Ricky would butcher the lineup construction with Harper and Vaughn added.
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The thing that most here are neglecting to consider is that going into 2021, I think we see an absolute shit ton of players non tendered around the league. I think there will be bargains galore, and thats exactly what Jerry likes.
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1 minute ago, chetkincaid said:
This would make them pretty close to being the favorites to win the WS.
It could all be so simple...
Pretty close? DeGrom, Bauer, Springer makes you THE World Series favorite, hands down!
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6 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:
The Rodon IBB was also a bad call. I think he preferred Rodon not having to throw another pitch and was confident Foster could get out of it (he had been so good all year), but it was head scratcher in hindsight. Maybe cost them the game. Problem is, no IBB there and Rodon has to face that batter. In hindsight it’s easy to say that was the right call - and I think it was - but I can at least understand RR logic. In real-time I didn’t hate it.
He HAD to do it to meet the 3 batter minimum. Period.
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3 minutes ago, fathom said:
First transaction: trade for Benintendi NO
Crazy trade scenario: trade Vaughn and Stiever for top of rotation arm WHO?
and sign Nelson Cruz for DH NO
Biggest signing: Stroman NOT BIG ENOUGH
2021 closer: Heuer MAYBE
Bauer 2021 team: Cardinals PROBABLY
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Just now, Good Guys said:
Do we absolutely need to sign a starter? Giolito, Keuchel, Dunning, Cease, and then Reylo, Crochet, Kopech?
Did you not watch the game? Or any games this year? Every name after the first 2 either underperformed significantly, is toast, may be hurt, or is an unknown after not throwing a pitch for 2 years.
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All I can say is its so exciting to finally have a reason to be excited! Meaningful, do or die, playoff baseball for the Sox, it just doesn't get any better than this!
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