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Here are the final terms:
January 26: Robertson has passed his physical, per Mark Feinsand of MLB.com (X posts). The righty will be guaranteed $11.5MM, which takes the form of a $5MM salary in 2024, a $1.5MM buyout on a $7MM mutual option for 2025 and then annual $1MM deferred payments from 2027-2031.
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Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:
Play little for a contender unless there is an injury or get a lot of PT with the Sox . He can retire right now if he wants to but I'd imagine if he was considering that he'd have announced it by now.
He could get a lot of PT with the Sox probably batting in the top 6 in the lineup with his great walk rate in the 1st half with plenty of time to go to a contender in the 2nd half of the season when contending is more of a sure thing than it is at the beginning of the season.
If he formally files for retirement, I believe he loses his guarantee, similar when Adam La Roche selected retirement to escape having to be with the White Sox for another minute.
There is also the ongoing Nationals Stephen Strasburg retirement debacle.
Not sure if Aaron passed the 10 year service time mark for a full MLB pension, but that would be one mitigating factor on choosing to play this season. He may have clinched it with Baltimore last year.
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10 minutes ago, wegner said:
Gross, unsubscribe.
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37 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:
He’d be essentially a free pickup for whatever teams signs him. The Yankees are still on the hook for next year’s $9.5MM salary and a $1MM buyout on a 2025 option. A signing team would only pay Hicks at the $740K league minimum rate for whatever time he spends on the MLB roster, which would be subtracted from New York’s obligations.
I'd sign him right now. He'd get a lot of playing time. What else could he want ?
If he doesn't want to play anymore, or only want to play for a contender, I can see him passing on playing for the White Sox, unless they made it worth his while (picking up his 2025 option or gave him some other incentive).
I doubt he plans to try a 2025 comeback, so beyond a contender or place he actually wants to play, he can join Kenny and Rick and get paid to stay at home in 2024 and prepare for what he wants to do next in life.
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2 minutes ago, Quin said:
Now they are one.
Thanks for moving. Since several players are projected to be with the team in 2024, I wasn't sure where to place the article. I liked reading the neutral perspective, and while there aren't many major contributors based on the current FV scores, they are not set in stone. Hoping the Sox continue to bring in quality external people to better select and develop players over the next few seasons. It's the only legitimate path to creating the team we all want in Chicago.
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https://blogs.fangraphs.com/chicago-white-sox-top-27-prospects/
FG Listed Position / Player (Current Age) Current Level Estimated MLB Promotion Year
Position Players
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55: Above Average Regular (2.5-3.3 fWAR):
- 3B Colson Montgomery (21.9) AA 2025
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50: Average Regular (1.6-2.4 fWAR):
- 3B Bryan Ramos (21.9) AA 2024
- C Edgar Quero (20.8) AA 2025
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45+: Low End Regular or Platoon Player (0.8-1.5 fWAR):
- SS Jacob Gonzalez (21.7) A 2026
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40+: Bench Player
- SS Ryan Burrowes (19.4) R 2027
- C Calvin Harris (22.2) A 2026
- RF Wilfred Veras (21.2) AA 2026
- 1B George Wolkow (18.0) R 2028
- CF jacob Burke (22.9) A+ 2027
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35+: Up & Down
- 2B Javier Mogollon (18.2) R 2028
- 3B Eduardo Herrera (17.3) R 2030
Pitchers
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50: #4 Starter 4.00 FIP
- SP Noah Schultz (20.5) A 2027
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45+: #4-#5 Starter 4.20 FIP
- SIRP Nick Nastrini (23.9) AAA 2025
- SP Jake Eder (25.3) AA 2024
- SP Jonathan Cannon (23.5) AA 2025
- SP Cristian Mena (21.1) AAA 2025
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40+: Backend Starters 5.00 FIP
- SIRP Alex Speas (25.9) MLB 2024
- SIRP Jordan Leasure (25.4) AAA 2024
- SP Peyton Pallette (22.7) A 2026
- MIRP Shane Drohan (25.1) AAA 2024
- MIRP Ky Bush (24.2) AA 2025
- SIRP Grant Taylor (21.7) R 2026
- MIRP Sean Burke (24.1) AAA 2025
- SIRP Seth Keener (22.3) A 2026
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35+: Up & Down
- SP Tanner McDougal (20.8) A 2026
- SP Maximo Martinez (19.6) R 2026
- SIRP Eric Adler (23.3) A+ 2026
Other Prospects of Note
Sleeper Arms with a Plus Breaking Ball
- Juan Carela, RHP
- Connor McCullough, RHP
- Jonah Scolaro, LHP
- Mason Adams, RHP
- Shane Murphy, LHP
Well-Known Fallen Prospects
- Braden Shewmake, SS
- José Rodríguez, 2B
- Norge Vera, RHP
- Matthew Thompson, RHP
- Kohl Simas, RHP
- Jared Kelley, RHP
- Yoelqui Céspedes, RF
- Wes Kath, 3B
Bat-to-Ball Sleepers
- Ronny Hernandez, C
- Brooks Baldwin, CF/INF
- Mario Camilletti, 2B/3B
- Rikuu Nishida, LF
Developmental Arms
- Christian Oppor, LHP
- Luis Rodriguez, RHP
- Mathias LaCombee, RHP
- Bryce Collins, RHP
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55: Above Average Regular (2.5-3.3 fWAR):
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1 hour ago, Quin said:
Why do you keep fluffing the A's when we don't have their stadium info or funding plan?
It's tough with blue checkmarks meaning nothing anymore, but Merkin follows this account:
They might not even have their proposed site anymore.
Las Vegas unions blocked the much larger and profitable Wild Wild Wild landsite across I-15, which would have enabled a large real estate development. They barely pushed this weaker deal through the Nevada legislature.
The approved land is abutted by McCarran Airport and two main arteries (Las Vegas Boulevard and Tropicana), is very small, and there isn’t a lot of flexibility to alter.
They play without a dome in Summerlin for their AAA team, but not sure MLB would sign off on those conditions for so called (with Fisher involved) Major League games. I personally hope Nevada and Clark County are able to get out of the deal, as MLB is forcing John Fisher to not sell as part of their approval, and no city or fan base including my beloved Las Vegas deserves his product.
It’s bad enough they got Mark Davis, though he has won two rings with his lesser known franchise with Tom Brady holding a minority stake. They hold the highest WNBA attendance at 9,551, which might beat the White Sox and is also more the the Hawks deserve.
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Last update before the start of Spring Training. Salaries will have increased year over year after Cot's updates the next $13.6M in signing(s).
Teams which have increased year over year OD payroll as of 1/25/24:
Net $328.6M
- $74.6M Los Angeles Dodgers (2)
- $62.4M Houston Astros (4)
- $28.5M Washington Nationals (19)
- $23.4M Atlanta XXXXXX (6)
- $21.8M Kansas City Royals (22)
- $20.4M Baltimore Orioles (28)
- $19.5M Tampa Bay Rays (26)
- $17.3M Arizona Diamondbacks (16)
- $17.1M Texas Rangers (8)
- $15.5M New York Yankees (3)
- $10.6M Toronto Blue Jays (7)
- $8.6M Cleveland Guardians (24)
- $6.8M Cincinnati Reds (27)
- $1.5M Milwaukee Brewers (21)
- $0.5M Miami Marlins (25)
- $0.1M Chicago Cubs (9)
Teams which have decreased year over year OD Payroll as of 1/25/24:
Net $342.2M
- $90.9M San Diego Padres (14)
- $48.9M Chicago White Sox (18)
- $40.0M Los Angeles Angels (11)
- $27.7M New York Mets (1)
- $26.7M Minnesota Twins (20)
- $26.6M Colorado Rockies (15)
- $21.6M Detroit Tigers (23)
- $21.5M San Francisco Giants (13)
- $13.7M Oakland Athletics (30)
- $9.9M Boston Red Sox (12)
- $4.5M Philadelphia Phillies (5)
- $4.4M Seattle Mariners (17)
- $4.2M Saint Louis Cardinals (11)
- $1.6M Pittsburgh Pirates (29)
Remaining Players with a projected 1.0 + fWAR
- 3.3 SP Blake Snell (31)
- 3.2 SP Jordan Montgomery (31)
- 2.6 3B Matt Chapman (31)
- 2.4 OF Cody Bellinger (28)
- 2.3 SS Amed Rosario (28)
- 1.9 DH Jorge Soler (32)
- 1.8 SP Hyun Jin Ryu (37)
- 1.8 SP Clayton Kershaw (36)
- 1.6 SS Tim Anderson (31)
- 1.6 SP Trevor Bauer (33)
- 1.5 SP Julio Urias (27)
- 1.3 SP Mike Clevinger (33)
- 1.2 SP Michael Lorenzen (32)
- 1.2 SP Domingo German (31)
- 1.2 SP Jakob Junis (31)
- 1.1 SP Zach Greinke (40)
- 1.1 INF Gio Urshela (32)
- 1.1 SP Carlos Carrasco (37)
- 1.0 OF Tommy Pham (36)
- 1.0 CF Michael A. Taylor (33)
- 1.0 SP Alex Wood (33)
- 1.0 INF Jean Segura (34)
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Old and expensive set up man. Texas may as well add a few more players now that this pushes them over the CBT for a second year.
2024 $10M + AAV FA Signings
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Arizona
- Eduardo Rodriguez (31) $20.00M (4)
- Lourdes Gurriel Jr. (30) $14.00M (3)
- Joc Pederson (32) $12.50M (1)
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Atlanta
- Reynaldo Lopez (30) $10.00M (3)
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Baltimore
- Craig Kimbrel (36) $13.00M (1)
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Boston
- Lucas Giolito (29) $19.25M (2)
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Chicago N. L.
- Shota Imanaga (30) $13.25M (4)
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Cincinnati
- Frankie Montas (31) $16.00M (1)
- Jeimer Candelario (30) $15.00M (3)
- Nick Martinez (33) $13.00M (2)
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Colorado
- Charlie Blackmon (37) $13.00M (1)
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Detroit
- Jack Flaherty (28) $14,00M (1)
- Kenta Maeda (36) $12.00M (2)
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Houston
- Josh Hader (30) $19.00M (5)
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Kansas City
- Michael Wacha (32) $16.00M (2)
- Seth Lugo (34) $15.00M (3)
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Los Angeles A. L.
- Robert Stephenson (31) $11.00M (3)
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Los Angeles N. L.
- Shohei Ohtani (29) $46.08M (10)
- Yoshinobu Yamamoto (25) $27.08M (12)
- Teoscar Hernandez (31) $20.43M (1)
- James Paxton (35) $11.00M (1)
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Milwaukee
- Rhys Hoskins (31) $17.00M (2)
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New York A. L.
- Marcus Stroman (33) $18.50M (2)
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New York N. L.
- Sean Manaea (32) $14.0M (2)
- Luis Severino (30) $13.00M (1)
- Harrison Bader (30) $10.50M (1)
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Philadelphia
- Aaron Nola (31) $24.57M (7)
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Pittsburgh
- Aroldis Chapman (36) $10.50M (1)
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Saint Louis
- Sonny Gray (34) $24.95M (3)
- Kyle Gibson (36) $13.00M (1)
- Lance Lynn (37) $11.00M (1)
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San Francisco
- Jung Hoo Lee (25) $18.83M (6)
- Jordan Hicks (27) $11.00M (4)
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Seattle
- Mitch Garver (33) $12.00M (2)
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Texas
- David Robertson (39) $11-$12M (1)
- Tyler Mahle (29) $11.00M (2)
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Toronto
- Kevin Kiermaier (34) $10.50M (1)
Teams Not Participating:
- Chicago A. L.
- Cleveland
- Miami
- Minnesota
- Oakland
- San Diego
- Tampa Bay
- Washington
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Arizona
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3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
He would have to be amazing in the first half and his massive salary is still going to limit any trade return for him. If he’s mediocre, no one is touching him.
There are several teams trying to win a championship in 2024 that might be willing to take on whatever the Sox don't (weighing cash vs. prospects) at the deadline (about $8M + $5M BO) depending on 3B health / hitting needs at the deadline. Threw the Mets in there for Cohen wild card.
Would say the Yankees or a non Chapman signing Blue Jays may be the two most likely interested based on their incumbents. Dodgers because they don't give a s%*# about the "Luxury" tax.
- Atlanta - Austin Riley (27)
- Houston - Alex Bregman (30)
- Los Angeles N. L. - Max Muncy (33)
- New York N. L. - Brett Baty (24)
- New York A. L. - DJ LeMahieu (35)
- Philadelphia - Alec Bohm (27)
- Texas - Josh Jung (26)
- Toronto - FA Matt Chapman (31) or Cavan Biggio (29)
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He played well to close the season, and I'm hoping he has a great 2024, and possibly yields a solid prospect or two at the deadline if he has a good first half.
From Lip's ST article:
QuoteHe finished well, batting .281/.324/.464 with eight homers and a .788 OPS from July 25 on after coming back from the lower-back problem, stemming from a disk that impinged on a nerve. He played in 52 of the Sox’ last 63 games.
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Assuming the MLB White Sox article is true, he passed the Steve Stone, Jerry Reinsdorf and most importantly, the food eating test via the three hour dinner in Arizona.
I prefer listening to radio baseball broadcasts followed by watching highlights on MLB.com, but hope to enjoy Schriffin’s work when I’m able to catch games on TV.
This article gives some background on his work including beyond sports. He started as a pitcher at Dartmouth before being injured, followed by announcing games for the Big Green before graduating.
https://www.axios.com/local/chicago/2024/01/25/john-schriffen-white-sox-broadcaster
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6 hours ago, ptatc said:
When I worked for the Packers they played 2 games each year in Milwaukee at County Stadium and the rest in Green Bay.
Three games (Gold Package) vs. five (Green Package) in Green Bay. I enjoyed many Packers games at Milwaukee County Stadium before the jump.
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Anyone snags a photo of Carl Everett and Sue, please post.
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Available Pool: $5,925,000 - $3,005,000 = $2,920,000 remaining.
Four confirmed amounts in the Sun Times Article.- Eduardo Herrera, 3B: $1.8M
- Judrick Profar, SS: $0.6M
- Jesus Premoli, 3B: $0.55M
- Jeziel Boekhoudt, RHP: $55K
Four without disclosed $s from the Sox on 35th article:
https://www.soxon35th.com/2024-international-signing-tracker-all-white-sox-agreements/
- Orlando Suarez, RHP, Venezuela
- Juan Berroteran, SS, Venezuela
- Alexandre Valdiviezo, RHP, Venezuela
- Manuel Rumbos, RHP, Venezuela
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- LF Joe Jackson
- 1B Rafael Palmeiro
- SS Alex Rodriguez
- DH Barry Bonds
- RF Carlos Beltran
- CF Andruw Jones
- C Thurman Munster
- 2B Bobby Grich
- 3B Craig Nettles
Utility: Pete Rose
- SP Roger Clemens
- Swing Curt Schilling
- 7th Joe Nathan
- 8th Francisco Rodriguez
- 9th Billy Wagner
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14 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
🤣 You are delusional. Just because the Sox acquired more players than the Cubs doesn’t mean they have had a better offseason than them. Which player have the Sox acquired that wasn’t dumpster diving? Apparently acquiring multiple negative WAR players means you are having a great offseason. Name one player the Sox have acquired this offseason that had a productive season last year.
I hate them too, but the fact is that the Cubs have won a WS far more recently than the Sox and if you can’t admit they currently have a competitive team while the Sox are in the basement of the worst division in baseball, you are lying to yourself.
Dude, perhaps you should stick to posting on your Cubbie message board ,because best case scenario is they swap out the Japanese pitcher for Stroman, and overpay to keep Bellinger. They have literally have done Jack s%*#, and have been shredding players for years to pay debt on the team and Wrigleyville while raping fans over past several seasons.
The Sox gained by shedding complete horseshit like Lynn and Kelly at the deadline, and Grandal, Elvis and hopefully Sheets after year end. Whatever they play will be an improvement at SS. Not only addition by subtraction, but a few of their pickups will outperform expectations, and Moncada and others should play well for their next contracts.
Perhaps reply to actual post content next time.
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Team Total INF OF SP RP
- 42.9 Cleveland 15.9 8.4 14.3 4.3
- 42.3 Minnesota 15.1 8.9 13.6 4.7
- 30.6 Detroit 7.5 8.0 11.2 3.9
- 24.0 Kansas City 11.4 5.3 7.4 (-0.1)
- 23.5 Chicago 6.5 7.5 7.8 1.7
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2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:
I must be missing something with Ramsay because he’s never been good in AAA in his many stops there. Shocked he’s even on the 40 man. Honestly, I think him or Lambert may get cut to make the Brebbia signing official.
It’s a guess for a lot of these guys at this point, with flexibility for those who are healthy and pitching well out of camp. They can move him down if he makes it through camp.
I like the fact the bullpen is mostly young, and 25% + of payroll isn’t committed to it. Depending on how the season goes, a few guys should be pleasant surprises who can continue here or be flipped depending on how things go.
I hope they sign / invite a few more guys. Still think 80 ish wins can take the division, thinking the Tigers most likely to add before ST and at the deadline.
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Going off the current roster / invitees:
x = player with minor league options
Rotation:
- Dylan Cease x
- Michael Kopech x
- Erick Fedde
- Michael Soroka
- Chris Flexen
Bullpen:
- John Brebbia
- Tanner Banks x
- Tim Hill
- Deivi Garcia
- Jimmy Lambert
- Lane Ramsey x
- Shane Drohan (Rule 5) x
- Touki Toussaint (Swingman)
Injured Reserve:
- Matt Foster x
- Davis Martin x
- Gregory Santos x
Open season in AAA: (All x) Cousin, Crochet, Eder, Leasure, Mena, Nastrini, Peralta, Scholtens, Shuster, Speas
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1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
By politicians you mean taxpayers and they shouldn’t have to pay for a new stadium for a pathetic owner of a team that doesn’t try to win. A new stadium for the Cubs would be a different argument unfortunately. I’m not a Cubs fan but they actually try to win and bring a ton of money to the city.
What have the Cubs done to win over the past several seasons?
Sox have had a far better off-season to date. Cubs lost their best hitter and Stroman this offseason, signed an unproven Japanese pitcher.
Both teams have won zero playoff series and a single legitimate division since 2016.
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3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
You are easily impressed. The team sucks.
A 70 win team isn’t exactly the long term pinnacle I ultimately would like to see.
That said, I am happy for:
- Current players + roster invitees.
- A new Front Office.
- Better fundamentals, defense and desire.
- Being closer to the next championship with Hahn gone; and Jerry + TLR another year closer to being gone.
- New FO and field management in the organization.
It’s not realistic to clean up this toxic mess in a single offseason, especially after what Jerry, Hahn, Kenny and Boyer have done to decimate the fan base over the past 15 years.
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This is already my fourth favorite White Sox team over the past 30 years behind in order 2005, 2020 and 2006.
They are underrated, will win 70 plus games assuming Cease is here to start the season, and will be a lot more enjoyable to watch on the field and support on and off the field.
Disappointed I haven’t found a sports book here to bet over White Sox wins (62-64), but am trying my final few days.
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5 hours ago, NO!!MARY!!! said:
Harold Baines was not a Reinsdorf acquisition
He was during the two periods I listed.
I did not list WAR or years during his initial stint after he was acquired by Veeck and Hemond.
John Brebbia signs with Sox, Romy DFA'd/claimed by Red Sox
in Pale Hose Talk
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Over half the 40 Man in just over five months counting the three players both acquired and released,
Changes since the jump:
8/22/23 - 1/26/24
16 Total Chris Getz 40 Man Roster Player Acquisitions
Free Agent Signings
Promotions
Rule 5 Draft
Trades
Waiver Claims
19 Total 40 Man Roster Player Removals (DFA/Demotions/Players Electing FA)
3 Total Chris Getz 40 Man Roster Players In-n-Out