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    Poll: longest losing streak this season

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    Said it before, White Sox will approach and possibly break the record for worst winning % in modern history. 

    The '62 Mets played 161 games and won just 40 for a .250 win%

    The 2003 Tigers won just 43 of 162 games for a .265 win%. 

    Sox can beat both!  So proud!  Thanks JR, Kenny, Rick, & Chris!

    If Sox win just 21 games, they would break the 1899 Cleveland Spiders all time record worst win% of .130

    Btw, JR's champion % is .023 (1/43).  If that were a BA, he'd be sent down.

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    Crochet preparing to be starter

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    On 1/15/2024 at 4:48 PM, Balta1701 said:

    I feel bad for Crochet because a professional organization would have tried him as a starter from the beginning in ‘21. Instead he got the Hahn clown show. You don’t draft a guy in the top 15 and treat him this way, this guy with his arm could easily have turned into a top 10 prospect in all of baseball after 2 years in the minors, but Hahn needed his relievers. And if he gets hurt, then there’s time for him to recover before he has to hit free agency. 

    Nah,  Crocket was a very weak SP at TN.  He should never have been drafted at #11 with SP intentions.  Not sure where solid RP's get drafted but I'm guessing not even in 1st round.  I remember Hahn got some smirks around the league with that reach.

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    Crochet preparing to be starter

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    13 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

    Kopech is almost as maddening as Moncada.

    I think the legend of his Texas high school pitching and "hot gun readings" in the low 100's overtook his realistic ability to pitch and not just throw.   Then the mixture of off-field drama, maturing, missing the Covid19 year completely, just an array of lower leg issues that always kept getting in the way, but he still had the 21st highest average velocity among starters last year, it's just that it has never been a terribly deceptive pitch due to how straight it can be at times, not unlike Reynaldo Lopez when he's going bad.

    At one point, he had the makings of really good off-speed pitches, the curveball was at least decent and the slider could really feature as a plus pitch.   That seemed to completely disappear in the second half, along with his confidence almost being completely shattered.

    More than anything, just terribly inconsistent...and finally consistently terrible for someone with his projected stuff.

    Feels like the word "potential" is the only word still somewhat reluctantly attached to him.

     

    At any rate, don't think Crochet ever even got to that point because of his lack of pitches thrown over the course of his career with so many injuries mixed in.  For every Chris Sale or Randy Johnson with that beanpole frame who can withstand the stress of high velocity arsenals and loads of sliders like Cease, there must be hundreds who simply don't make it and flame out somewhere along the way.

    I remember the Kopech speed pitch video.  I thought; "How cool; now don't that anymore!".   Yeah, he & Crochet are just 2 of many Chris Getz (non) developmental success stories that landed him into the GM's chair.  I can't recall anyone with so much success at failure!   Also, is it me or have Sox pitchers been the "most BBs" & "most pitches" staffs over the last 2-3 years?  We must lead in ~100 pitch / >6 inning starts (give/take 5-10 pitches). Seems so anyway.  Great development!

    Yeah today's whip action slider and disappearance of body usage/support in the windup virtually assures Tommy John surgery & a coin toss if career ending or peaked.  It almost seems to be part of the accepted culture now as is the 6 inning limit. If there's > 25 CG's in MLB this year, I'll be shocked; 34 in 2023.

    Crochet preparing to be starter

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    On 1/13/2024 at 3:28 PM, caulfield12 said:

    I just meant if another ultra high velocity guy can handle any type of significant load over a full season.

    For now it will be Hicks and the Giants skeptics are paying close attention to.

    Ah, I see.  I wonder what the history is overall.  It clearly didn't work for Kopek either.  I'm guessing lots of Tommy John.

    I feel bad for Crochet.  He could be a fantastic back end bull pen stud once he gets his control figured out.  But Getz needs SP's because Cease will be gone and no one good will sign here. 

    If Crochet pitches > 75 innings and/or 15 starts, it'll be a miracle.  Poor kid!  A wasted career and so much lost $'s because of who drafted him. 

     

     

    Crochet preparing to be starter

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    On 1/11/2024 at 10:59 PM, caulfield12 said:

    We will see with Joyce, right?   If his results coming out of Tenn are any different?

    I didn't realize the Angels were converting him to starter.  I thought they were happy with him in the back end bull pen.

    Crochet preparing to be starter

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    This plan to covert Crotchet to SP from draft day has been asinine from the start. 

    He was barely a starter at TN in 2 years (+ 1 2020 3.1 inn start) 

    He had 12 starts in 35 appearances over 2018 &19.  Only 1 went as long as 8 innings; 4 were 6+, 2 were 5+.  All others were 4 or less innings and he mostly got creamed until they removed him from their rotation.

    He was a fairly successful reliever but wore down quickly as a starter both years.

    Its just astonishing that no one in this org ever scouted that he cant start and still believes he can.

    White Sox FO stupidity is their only success; its consistent trough regimes.

    White Sox, Getz have more work to do before spring training opens

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    I'm hoping for Getz to live up to his reputation and the Sox have an historically bad season.  Since they'll lose 100+ games anyway, why not cement JR's place in eternal infamy where he belongs.  38 wins would be % pts under but round out to the same as the 1916 Philly A's, the modern era record holder, @ .235%.  37 wins would be standalone worse @ .228%.  Go 37! Sorry die-hard fans!  I used to be one too but JR squeezed me dry.

    Benetti to Tigers

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    Not watching, not listening, not recording, not going.

    Been a Sox fan for >60 years and they've become irrelevant. 

    Reinsdorf, you crusty, senile bastard!  

    You're creating reasons to shut Sox fans down so you can move the team without turmoil.

    Pure scum!  Count your billions rotting in hell!  Lots of time to count them all, over and over.

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    Crochet wants to be a SP

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    16 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

    Totally believable statement:

    Garret Crochet would be a top of the rotation starter in 2024 if the White Sox hadn’t ever tried to make him a reliever.

    They cost him $200 million+ for a middle reliever in 2021.

    If he was a bottom of the rotation SPOT starter at Tenn for 2 years, how/why could/would he ever be a top of rotation SP in MLB?

    Crochet wants to be a SP

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    Crochet will never be a successful SP.  He couldn't do it consistently at Tenn.  Why in the world did the Sox draft him as the #11 pick?  His Tenn career was very mediocre at best.

    ...35 appearances with only 12 starts in 2 seasons...huh?  And most of those were under <=5 inning stints.  The White Sox scouting dept strikes again!

    Blow it the F Up

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    I pity all the poor bastards with season tickets.  Think of all the beautiful ways to spend that cash.

    It'll take at least a decade to rebuild from this colossal pile.  And that clock doesn't even start until every ownership/management office is emptied & scoured with bleach.  Who knows when that'll ever happen.

    It'll probably take 5 years just to purge the stink.

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