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it seems as lance is having a diffucult time on the tour this yr. some are questioning if he will win. but is bs is that some fans ran on the field earlier to prevent him from gaining time on the leader on that race which would have put him higher. this has happen on more than one race. talking about cheaters.

i am surprise that this song didn't take off sooner.

lets deal with facts instead of what anyone thinks or believes the fact is rose agreed and admitted to gambling, and he sign the banned himself.

where is the proof? do you have a link to this new earth shatter news that they were found guilty?

so when did it become a fact that bonds and sosa did the drugs?

ahhh so the word "cheater or cheated" needs to be define. No. They're the same thing. Rose gambled. He didn't cheat. rules and rules, the intergerity of the game needs to be kept solid, rose knew the rules and famble illegally. gambling is still illegals in some states as was the case in this era.

ahhh so the word "cheater or cheated" needs to be define. No. They're the same thing. Rose gambled. He didn't cheat. all the fact never became known, the facts that rose does not want printed. so the possiblitity is there.

betting illegally on a game that can be affected by your actions. that is crimmal, look at the term of 'inside trader'. then those can be foregiven without any penalty. uh

ahhh so the word "cheater or cheated" needs to be define.

so you and anyone who voted yes condone what he did, betting on game as a player and manager of the reds.

if they were found to be during their playing time or when associated with the game then yes, on the other hand, they have one in there already, ty cobb

You are right no one in the hall has been banned for life but I bet alot of them could be if the same rules always applied. joe jackson

bingo, the intergerity of the game was damage. you need guidlines, if not, then players could use all the drugs, bet on every game or point in all sports. not just one.

look at ty cobb

no now and when he dies, if he admit to it, like another poster said, yes with a asterick.

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I believe in the version where he admitted in an interview that he didn't try his best to make some plays in the Series because it would help them win. here is the facts from several site telling the story of the fix FACT: Jackson was the star of the Series, he hit the only homerun, fielded flawlessly, batted .375 to lead all players, and his twelve hits set a World Series record that stood until Pepper Martin tied it years later. Joe accounted for 11 of the Sox 20 runs in the Series, he led players on BOTH teams. FACT: On the evening after the fifth game of the Series, one of Joe's teammates (Lefty Williams) came to his hotel room and offered him an envelope containing cash. Joe refused to accept it, an argument ensued and Joe left his own room. Lefty threw the envelope down and left. This version of the crucial event in Joe's case was attested to, under oath, by the only two men who were there: Joe Jackson and Lefty Williams. Their accounts agree, Joe did not take the money, it was dumped on him. It must be noted, Lefty Williams had nothing to gain by lying for Joe Jackson, therefore....logic leads us to believe his testimony is the truth. FACT: Sometime over the next few days Joe took the envelope containing the $5,000.00 that Lefty had left in his room and went to see Comiskey. He was told by Comiskey's secretary Harry Garbiner that Comiskey was busy and could not see him. Joe waited for an hour and still was told that Comiskey could not see him, so he went home. Hindsight is always 20-20 and we all know Joe should have gone to Lefty Williams and threw the cash back in his face, sadly we all know he didn't do this.....but we also know that he tried to do the right thing....to tell what he knew.....but Comiskey was in the process of a cover up....and wanted to keep Joe Jackson quiet......truth be known.....Comiskey was afraid Joe would run his mouth to the press. if jackson was guilty b/c of his knowledge then comiskey and reporter at the time gleason should be found guilty as well. FACT: Comiskey would not see Joe that morning, because he was in a secret meeting with two players hearing the story of the fix, however in reality, Comiskey already knew the story. Comiskey publicly proclaimed his commitment to "clean baseball", he privately spent the winter of 1919 and most of the 1920 season denying rumors about the 1919 Series and perpetrating a cover-up, in part to protect his valuable property, namely the guilty players. FACT: Of the players that Comiskey fed to the Grand Jury, Joe was the most problematic. He had been the only one to warn Comiskey before the Series began. If Joe told all he knew, Comiskey's self-proclaimed integrity would be impugned and he would be revealed as a hypocrite (which he was), or worse. so in all the sites i read, i did not see this suppose interview where he admitted that he was part of this fix.

man i just remember your april fools joke, that was brutal and i fell for it. damn.

anyhow, who is to say that it was all sox fans doing the booing, could there not have been other fans from other city booing their rival players. i was taught at an early age by my brother and i have taught my kids on booing, it a light hearted gesture to support your team. then we eat some hot dogs and drank some soda and watch a nice game of baseball, so how is that classless.

what make it different if you boo them during one event and not another?

depends on which version you believe in, i for one did not believe he was guilty. the banning from the commissioner was a sham and well as how comiskey force the issue. i voted for joe with nellie being second with frank

cmon now, booing has been part of the game for decades. it not one sport but many of them basketball, esp on the college level, hockey it is part of the game. you cheer your players and boo the visiting team.

no

edonkey is base in europe and will not be affected by any american courts ruling.