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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 02:18 PM) That's not true anymore though. Those old deals were not grandfathered into the post-lockout CBA. If Hossa retires early, the Hawks will face cap penalties for those extra years to "recapture" the cap savings from the earlier years of the contract. Not franchise-crippling penalties, but they could be a couple million. I would have to look up the exact numbers later (RIP CapGeek). I know that if Roberto Luongo retires early, the Canucks will face cap penalties even though he is now a Florida Panther. That being said, the deal was signed under the old CBA, looked like a great deal and was key to winning 3 Cups, so I'm still confused as to what "mishandling" the previous posts were referring to with Hossa. i would be wrong in trying to post for him, since i really didn't know his mindset on making the org post. but i took it as the contract when sign was a long one and the salary for that length of the contract. now, with the cba in place and all the penalties and such, finding ways around the cba, i think many may not know how it will affect the hawks salary cap. again that is how i took it and again, i may be really screwed up in that. but since you appear to know a lot of the cba, can you pls answer this, hossa contract calls for something like 1 mil for the next 4 yrs after this one, correct?? yet the hawks salary cap hit will still be in the 5.5+ mil a yr all the way thru to the end of the contract, how is that???

if you have not seen spotlight..... it is freaking great and great acting all the way around. between concussion and spotlight, i do not what other film can hang with them. spotlight like concussion is a true story. now i spent the last several hours reading most of the important characters on wilki and this move did not hide the names of the characters. it is all there for everyone to read. that major ex-priest was defrocked and died in prison .... he was murder. several more priest were also defrocked. damn, the only reason this never got the news, b/c of the hangover of 9/11

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 07:10 AM) Probably, to be honest. I was throwing out a wild and a fairly outlandish idea, but again in theory it's possible. At the end of 2016-2017, Hossa would have made a little over 90 million in his career. 4 million is 4 million, I would never think less of someone for wanting every cent of it, but my money is Hossa walking away from that 4 million that is owed to him over the last 4 years. a million dollars is still a lot of money. i really don't know about that... i can see it, to me, it will depend on his pride. would he like to be known for the player he was before or would he want a million dollars a yr. i don't know. this is a hard guess. but the hawks are stuck, they really need a line 1 or line 3 winger who has talent. this salary cap is a hard cap and that is screwing up many teams.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 05:19 AM) I believe if you file retirement papers, the team is no longer obligated to pay any committed money. Now that is where it gets a little tricky because you would assume the Hawks probably worked something out with Hossa when the deal was signed. Once he is retired and no longer a member of the organization, is there anything stopping them from paying Hossa 4 million dollars in one lump sum for a random autograph signing? I know it's crazy, but teams do a bunch of crazy stuff to circumvent the cap. It's why those types of deals are no longer allowed in the NHL. that is interesting and really thinking outside the box. but wouldn't the lawyers have thought of that in the cba??? just asking.

last yr, sb made 2 trades, toward the end of the season, one of those trade help with the winning of the SC.... now this is my opinion. so in order to look at how the team is and what is or will be needed, which position will be address??

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 07:15 AM) 1st you assume Fulmer is ready in '17 . Let's say he is. Garza goes to long relief . That way it's guaranteed he won't reach the goals he needs to to get that 2018 contract . It's doubtful he accomplishes it anyway since he's already behind on the number of starts he would need to make in order for it to vest along with some health goals he could not meet too If they sign one of the Big 3 the budget is shot but not by too much the 1st year from what I proposed. So might as well just sign someone like Jackson because the SP depth sucks anyway. Probably will be plenty of FA's who end up taking 1 year deals. i can see garza agent filing a grievance with the union and the powers to be.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 05:02 AM) like rumors for example?

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 03:50 AM) I also wonder if Casey Close is using the Sox as leverage against the Royals. Not saying that's the case at all, but I wonder... but one has to wonder .... it is a great strategy.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 04:16 AM) "3:54pm: The Pirates announced that they have signed catcher/first baseman/outfielder John Jaso to a two-year contract. The ACES client will serve as the club’s left-handed half of a first-base platoon, pairing with Mike Morse and/or Jason Rogers to handle those duties." http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/pira...-john-jaso.html Time to give up the ghost about LaRoche to Pitt. Ain't happening. i agree, it is not happening anywhere, to any team. just have to hope for a rebound.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 04:10 AM) Yes. The "organization mishandling" of the Hossa deal was the excuse the Blackhawks needed to fire Dale Tallon and put in Stan Bowman (good move). The Campbell contract was early on in McDonough's tenure and everyone knew it was a bad deal. That being said, the Campbell contract was honestly better than the Bickell one is for the Hawks now. you bring up a great point. but let me try to make a point and explain that point. now remember this is my opinion. a group of friends were talking at the time of the hossa deal. the hawks had no credibility with anyone, at the time they were not even selling out the games. the only way to change that, imo was to get a elite fa, a player who is a game changer. but who will want to come to chi??? so they were forced to over pay, to really over pay and dangle the money.... and he signed. not, he also started to recruit other fa to try to come to chi. this was the little stuff that may or may not have been mention. today, many see the 3 SC some great hockey players, stars in the nhl, but think back to 2 yr before all that good things happen. how was it then, how was the media then.... now, well to some and me too, he may be over paid, but he did do a lot of good for the chi blackhawks, should that be taken into consideration???

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 04:32 AM) You're going to get in trouble with my co-workers for calling Taiwan a separate country, haha. Actually, I don't quite understand the thinking of taking a cruise ship back when there's a potentially serious medical issue that should be addressed in a timely fashion. THAT said...in response to TONY above, Daddy's Home with Will Ferrell/Wahlberg repairing and The Good Dinosaur are probably going to be the best family options for kids...although Daddy's Home is getting hammered by the critics. good question, the main concern was the effect of what people know of the bends, or blood clouts attributing to the sudden air pressure of the plane climbing. also if they were over the ocean, there were no where to land for medical treatment. the airlines wouldn't even take that chance. he was in stable condition to be on a cruise ship. the doctor on board had been brief and had extra medical supplies.... now i am not medical i do not know these supplies. it was a scary month.,

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 03:18 AM) I really can't see Gordon agreeing to go to the Royals rival on Christmas Eve/Christmas this is fantasy dream time, i would love cep to be sign, and chris davis

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 04:11 AM) My brother in law's neighbor's cousin's daughter's teammate's mom tweeted that Saad f***ed Rozsival 's sister. That's why Saad was traded. ok keep stirring up the pot.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 03:08 AM) Right, I should have said R-rated/adult family option...not for kids. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/-concussion-...191742316.html# Interesting premise from CONCUSSION director Landesman, that there will be a backlash/cultural shift from football back to baseball as more and more parents stop allowing their kids to play the game. Apparently Pop Warner numbers are down 30-35%, so that will be showing up in the next two decades at the collegiate and NFL level in terms of that talent switching to other sports. It happened in the 80's and 90's with the NBA (taking mostly African-American athletes from MLB), we'll see the impact here. my nephew, i never said this to anyone, he played football, hs champion wrestler, martial artist and was in the gracie group fighting in the ufc and mma. now, he went undefeated in mma and moved to ufc. he had to gain weight to fight at the min for ufc, something like 20-30 lbs. the gracie group left ufc b/c they were promoting steroids to their fighters. he too left undefeated. he had one fight in vegas. ok i am a proud uncle. now for the story. i just wanted to give you back group. he was visiting the asian country around memorial day weekend,visiting his girlfriend family, he went into convulsion. thing is in twain to get medical help, you have to pre pay.... long story short, my brother and sister in law who are divorce flew up there. they could fly him back but they took a cruise ship back.... now in the US. they are at the ucla medical center testing him for concussion and now i will bet this cte which i never knew off. .....

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 02:48 AM) JOY (Jennifer Lawrence, about the invention of Miracle Mop/Swiffer products for QVC/HSN) was a lot like a much better version of a similar concept, the Greg Kinnear one (which flew completely under the radar) about the invention of the intermittent wiper blade and his ongoing fight with the Big 3 automakers in DET. Not surprised most of the reviews have it in the 50's, like Concussion. Both movies are about interesting stories, but the "dramatized story within a real story" is simply lacking. Jennifer Lawrence, as always, is eminently watchable...just like Will Smith, but both of these movies are better off watched on your own time and don't require a theatre viewing. SISTERS, the Tina Fey/Poehler movie, is probably a better family option to Star Wars sellouts over the holidays. ahhh screeners are just great... i got those 2 movies and i am going to veg out and see movies from now until sat.... talking about concussions. i am seeing it for the 2nd time .... i am even like it more than the first time.... very powerful. i also read up on wilki of the main doctors and their stand and the one dr.... his website is a joke on his stand of the CTE and the movie.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 03:50 AM) Lol you are right and you still had to post ...

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 03:45 AM) For the love of god already just let it f***ing go and who started it back up..... look at the names... and their positions.

'Tony82087' 1. I never said it didn't happen. I agree 100% with you that you can choose to believe either side. I choose to side with facts when possible, and when it pertains to a possible fight in the locker room, all we have is two tweets. One from Dan Bernstein, and one from Dave Diehl. Two people you admitted to having NO IDEA who they were. and i do not know who they were and you guys from chi told me... should i know who they are if i do not live in chi now there are fights all the time that is part of the contact sports and temper. i too agree with that. i am saying what i read and posted it was a rumor 2. So you can't find any links or stories relating to what you said about media being escorted out of the locker room. I searched "Blackhawk locker room fight" and found many articles all linking back to the same two tweets in different stories, and not one mention of anything about media being escorted out of the locker room. and that is what was said back in feb and tsn i believe mention it again at the day before the draft. that is all i have and i have said so... 3. The point of all this, of course, is that people seem to be "ganging up on you" because you are choosing to base your opinion on information that simply doesn't exist, and/or was created by "sources" that have been proven to have no credibility. We all agree the purpose of a message board is to have open discussion and debate. But when one side is simply based on bad conjecture and misrepresentation of what is fact, expect to hear feedback from the other side. for starters i never used the word ganging up on me, in any way nor implied it in any contents. i have kept each post separate from all the other .... except for this last one on ss2k5. but i did it, b/c each one had a different subject in some respect, even thou they are in some way linked. and when i ask to be proven wrong, i wish to be proven wrong and i will be the first to admit it.... now can any other .... ummm posters here same the same??? fact... or fact of where the info comes from, which i have done and provided to support my statement. however there is a caveat to that. i can not control their accuracy. and i will like to add that disclaimer at that time, which i have. when i stated it was a rumor being posted. edit.... without coming across and i am afraid that many will think i am trying to kiss your ass. i am not. but this was a great post. clean, factual and straight to the point. nice and neat.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 03:49 AM) Here soooo. where did i name the admin or mods. i made a generalization of what i am seeing .... so

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 03:46 AM) Yep, only you get to give your opinions, because that is a discussion. If anyone else does, it is ganging up. Nothing to see here, just LDF giving his opinion that no one else can disagree with, or everyone else is picking on him. and you taking a post meant for someone else to try to prove a point.... i should just do as you, and mention you.... i can take liberties and say it is the truth, b/c ss2k5 does it with out submitting the proof. yup that is it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 03:44 AM) And don't you dare ask for proof because discussions. esp when someone fabricate things.... oh god forbid. pls don't do that. ummm you should talk to tony.... a strange inconsistency here.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 03:39 AM) I didn't say that, you did. I'm asking you, for like the eight time, where you saw the report that journalists were asked to leave the locker room. Why are you having such a hard time answering that? you also said that that incident never happen and then that incident was never the cause of sharp getting traded. you have the tendency to keep moving the goalpost to suite you opinions. again, i said that i posted the rumor of the incident and you said that it was not a valid group. i will also say this now, i can't find the statement that i posted back in the draft link. i found where i said it was a TSN link but i could not find that link. so there is nothing i can do about it. but i still am saying and i posted the links you wanted.... but of course, it does not fit your narrative of what you want.... moving the goalpost. . btw, i thought you made this gander post of not responding anymore.....

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 02:35 AM) Okay so you are accusing myself of having no class because of what I am not sure. then no need to bring it up.... since you seems to forget....

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 02:32 AM) Still waiting on that report of reporters being asked to leave the locker room because of a fight, like you claimed.....Where is that link? The link you read that reporters saw the fight and were asked to leave the locker room... and i am still saying that i posted the link of what was said.... if those links or some don't have the exact words you require... well just too bad. you took all this time to build up some guts to say this, even when i was on the site with you before.... ohhhh i see you need some reinforcement to add that little support. i get it.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 02:27 AM) Fine. At the end of the day you are able to throw out rumors that claim Sharp is a married man who sleeps with other players Wifes and whoever else then go ahead. Because.... Well it's on the Internet it must be true! LDF can't bother to check if it's a reliable source or not! That would be unresonable! But the admins and mods have no class. Okay. btw, when did i accuse of all admin and mods???? again, just acting out.... but again on the flip side, just b/c they don't tell the truth, not is ever right, b/c all rumors are wrong and without contents.