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QUOTE (hawksox13 @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 11:07 AM) I must be in the vast minority here, because I didn't see a whole lot in Richard that made me think much about his future with the White Sox. His stuff is average/below average, his motion isn't smooth, his location wasn't great, and his presence on the mound was shaky at best(getting rattled/giving up the big inning). I don't think we'll see him consistently in the White Sox starting five in the future. I'm chalking him up(probably too early) to being another in the sad recent history of failed number five starters. For once, I'd like to see the White Sox bring up a pitcher who has a high ceiling. I've had enough of the Broadway's, Diaz', Danny Wright's, Haeger's, and Richard's. If I'm going to see a guy go through some type of rookie pains, at least let it be a guy like Poreda. At least he would be a guy that I could say, wow, we may have something here! I know, I know, Pereda isn't ready right now, but neither is a guy like Richard. The difference is, a guy like Poreda can make some mistakes down the middle of the plate and get away with it because he has plus stuff. So his struggles/mistakes may not be as noticable as a guy like Richard, who's just that, he's just another guy. Technically speaking Felix Diaz was hyped as having a high ceiling. It didn't turn out to be the case because his stuff wasn't near as good as advertised. I don't recall the Sox really using Haeger much, but if your going to put Danny Wright in the same group of those guys your nuts. Wright had as good of an arm and build as pretty much anyone in the current Sox rotation. Good velocity on the fastball, a very nice knuckle-curve. He had issues with his command and whenever it appeared he was going to figure things out he'd get hampered with an injury. Hell, I'd take a 22 year old version of Wright over every guy in the Sox minor leagues (hate to say it, because it wasn't like he was an uber top prospect or anything but he was definitely above average) with the possible exception of Poreda (Poreda throws from the left side and has a little better velocity, albeit a less proven arsenal).

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 10:56 AM) Wassermann since his callup: 6.1 IP, 6 H, 4 BB (2 IBB though), 0 K, 2.84 ERA. He's starting to look like he might be back to 2007 form. I'd keep him around for now. Also, I suggested this in the minor league thread... I have a feeling they are protecting Poreda, so if they send down Logan (which I think may happen), I think they'll call up Whisler. Not because Whisler is more talented (he's not), but because Poreda already has a ton of value. Whisler is a big question mark - no one can see a reason why he's doing so well in Charlotte. I think they may want to look at him for a week or two out of the pen, then bring Logan back for the stretch run. There is zero reason the Sox would bring up Whisler just to see for a week or two if he has what it takes (I've seen him pitch on a few ocassions and I can flat out tell you that he doesn't). Maybe I'll be wrong and when used as a reliever he'll turn into one of those guys that ends up being very effective because pitching out of the pen lets him pitch with an increased velocity. However, if the Sox want a lefty in the pen, they aught to move Richard there. I know he struggled with some big innings but I'd feel quite confident in him as the guy in the back of the pen (plus he showed a pretty good knack at getting ground balls so he could develop into a good guy to bring in when you are looking for that key DP out of the pen).

I moved this over to PHT. I think its a cool thread and something with the idea of promoting the play of baseball (whether its older guys getting together or kids) is something I'm always for. I figure over here it will get a little more exposure. I know I think back (I'm not even old, just 25) to when I was a kid and we were always playing all sorts of minor variation of baseball games (and other games for that matter). It was always a total blast and now kids today I swear its like all they have is video games. Hell, I played plenty of video games as I came from a golden era and got to experience Mario Bro's when it was brand new, but video games never got in the way of kids going out and having fun. On our street cars would always have to go about a mile an hour through the whole neighborhood in the summer as there was always a plethora of us out there, most of us with blood running down or legs from all the times we'd do something stupid and end up laying out on the asphalt.

Pretty cool stat heads. I was able to figure it out, shockingly enough.

Thi sis at least entertaining.

It should be noted that this guy was a top 7 round talent, if not a top 5 round talent. Shirek is a legitimate pitching prospect with a nice set of tools.

RIP

Classic....Classic.

Alright, the Sox had a day out of first, I slipped my guard and it won't happen again. Time to bust out a nice winning streak and it all starts TONIGHT!!!!

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 1, 2008 -> 02:12 PM) I didn't intentionally try to crack your head open. I don't pitch as good when I'm not on a mound... Someone lied to you.

Alright, its time for a big time winning streak.

Ladies and Gentleman...its time for:

New siggy

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 06:55 PM) Swisher has been a disapointment this year. Swisher has been the biggest dissapointment of any player on the Sox. Konerko has been a bit worse, but he struggled through injuries for most of the season and those injuries pretty much burried his morale.

PK will hit a pinch hit HR in the 9th.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 06:47 PM) In Danks first 18 starts, he had allowed 4 runs or more only twice. Now, he has a 4 game streak going of allowing at least 4 runs. His next start is against the Tigers. IIRC, one of those 4 starts was the game against the Rangers where he went deep and gave up a run or two in like the 8th inning. So realistically he's had about 2 bad starts, one mediocre start and one above average start. You guys expect him to be perfect all season? Hell, I think anyone should have realized he'd trend downward as he tired out. Bottom line is he's been great this season and while he will fade a bit I still expect him to throw a lot of quality starts down the stretch. f*** YES...JERMAINE DYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 06:45 PM) I never thought he was legit either, although I still like the guy and hope he can learn how to not strike out every other at-bat. ... Game's not over yet. Now Gavin Floyd on the other hand. I was one of the few that was raving about him back when he was down in the minors. Not gloating though because he's still got a lot to prove, but thus far you really got to tip your cap and hand it to Gavin for doing a nice job all season long. Great way to start things of CQ. Time for the Sox to quit b****ing and being afraid and battle back. The Twins did it today, why can't the Sox come on back. LETS GO WHITE SOX!!!! Hell, I see Paulie coming up with a big pinch hit tonight. Quick someone, get me into the insane asylum.

Hanrahan would have been a tremendous pickup. Again, I won't blame Kenny because I still think this team has the ability to get its s*** together. They aren't this bad of a defensive team, at least the infield isn't or shouldn't be. THe outfield, well f***, with Griffey it will be a bit ugly. The pen needs to get its s*** together as does the defense. Hopefully the offense can stay on its relative roll and help ease things. That said, we knew the pitching staff would slump and some point and now I think the key is hoping Griffey can provide a spark as will the return of Count (who apparently is looking very good now that he's healthy and that would be a major lift) and Linebrink (if he comes back healthy, this will be HUGE). On top of that Crede is apparently feeling very good and will be a significant upgrade over that over-rated prospect named Josh Fields (I can call him that since I've said that about him since day one practically). Hell, I think I was the only guy not raving about him last season.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 06:34 PM) I want to know if anyone reading this thread that believes we have any chance of winning this game? It's almost as if we don't know how to handle a lead in Minnesota. Well, this s*** better get resolved quick because we'll have one more series at The Dome in September, and if it means anything we can't give up leads like this. Its a one run game and momentum can cahnge quickly. Just ask the Twins who took the momentum this inning after the Sox had it. Now I should shut the f*** up cause as I type this the Twins hit a 3 run bomb.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 06:33 PM) That play reminded me of opening day when he botched a similar grounder that led to a huge inning for the Indians. Are we complaining about the same OC that stole a base today and ripped two basehits? I realize he made an error but his defense is the last f***ing thing we should be worrying about. No, he isn't Juan Uribe defensively but a lot of you guys act as if he isn't a top 5 defensive shortstop.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 06:31 PM) At this point in his career, Danks is a 6 inning pitcher. I don't get it. Prior to these past 3 starts or so (I guess 4 now) Danks was on a roll where he was doing nothing but cruise deep into games. He made one mistake today and really pitched better than the numbers indicated (ie the runs). Well I'll say two mistakes (aside from a couple of those elevated change-ups hit for doubles), that leadoff walk sucked balls too. I had absolutely no issue with John's start tonight and the Sox should be leading right now.

This is f***ing horrid. I don't even know what to say. This reminds me of the Yanks series earlier this season where the Sox got there asses handed to them because they couldn't execute and close things out. They've blown 2 4 run leads in this series, played s***ty defense, and failed to get clutch hits. f***ing brilliant. I'm excited as f*** to see Griffey though and this is still a game. I got faith Sox are going to win tonight.

He took a vacation afterward the season and my guess is we'll see him sign by August 10th. He will sign, but negotiations weren't supposed to really start until early August. Danks deal is pretty much done, just a matter of finalizing the deal (they are lagging the official signing as a why to not piss off MLB (since its going to be for over-slot money).

Well technically playing left and right you are more likely to have to stop quickly (as you approach foul territory) where as in CF the only significant stops of action you'd have would be related to playing the balls at the wall. So I guess he could have a point there. However, you are going to run more in CF than the other positions or at least I believe you will.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:57 AM) Griffey was an all star, hit 30 HRs and posted a .868 OPS last year so the Sox should get some compensation for him. I said maybe because you don't know if the Sox will offer him arbitration. If he does get offered arbitration I can see him being on less than a type B FA and I wouldn't be shocked to see him as a Type A (I expect a strong finish to the season for Griff).