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You could make a case that the Sox could have dealt some of those guys for top notch players (Honel early on, Borchard, Anderson). Can't say the same about McCulloch/Broadway. McCulloch was by far the worse of that group of picks. Well I guess I could make a case for Royce Ring given the fact that Blanton was on the boards (and was someone everyone wanted). Lumsden busted but more due to injuries than lack of stuff and had very good potential and the Royals thought highly enough in him to trade for MacDougall (who at the time was pitching lights out). Whisler was a terrible selection though.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 11:17 AM) If Loaiza only hit 78 on his fastball that isn't good, but the question is if this is rehab maybe he wasn't supposed to go for velocity. But, I am not convinced anymore he will be the 6th starter, if needed. Considering the one thing he needed to work on more than anything was velocity, I'd be surprsied if he wasn't pitching for velocity. Bottom line he won't be back on the Sox roster anytime soon and his career is probably over.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 10:10 PM) the other thing with Getz is that it just seems as though he's an Aaron Miles clone...not that there's anything wrong with Aaron Miles, it's just that he's better suited to be a backup player than a starter at 2B next year. Richar has the potential to atleast be about a league average 2Bman. I don't think you can compare the two. Getz can actually play SS and 3B (not the greatest arm, but it is strong enough to backup at both of those spots) plus he can play the OF. He is also a lot faster and has more pop (not a lot more) but bottom line he has a better skill-set than that of Aaron Miles.

Mario and I will go check the field in a few minutes and see what its like.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 02:02 PM) Llyod May not even make the roster. I expect the least out of him. Bradley has never had a real opportunity to perform since his injury. Bennet may have the talent of a # 1 eventually, but this should not be the year to find out. It's really Bradley or Bust. As scary as that is, it is not any worse than relying on a unproven Berrian at the start of 2006. Olsen/Clark/Hester/Jones need to step up on O obviously. Hester is the guy I think most likely to emerge as a #1 but he is incredibly raw and will be a first time starter. The reality is Berrian getting franchised would have been perfect because the Bears could have had Bennett adjust in, Hester as a 2 or 3 (and slowly adjust) and give Bradley and opportunity to prove themselves. That way at the end of the year the Bears would lose BB but also know what they have in Bennet/Bradley/Hester and whether that would be an adequate corps or if they would need to go out and target a WR via FA/Trade/1st Round Selection. I should point out that this isn't me saying this after the fact. I continually said that the Bears should have franchised Berrian regardless of whether they felt they would be able to come to terms with on an extension or not.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 02:01 PM) He's not really had a legit opportunity to do so either. Each time it appears he is going to start the season with significant playing time something happens - he was well on his way to being established before tearing his ACL, then the next year he was having a good camp and had a muscle pull (or something, I forget) which set him back and ended up burying him on the depth chart while the Bears went to the Super Bowl. Then the following year he was just kind of there, and he was stuck behind Berrian on the depth chart again, this time with Hester in the equation. However, as much of a Bradley apologist as I am, I will say this - he is not too bright, and has had trouble learning which routes to run. If he was able to do that they may have let him play more that year. Listen, I like Bradley as much as the next guy but you can't possibly ignore those injuries. When it happens that many times its a trend. He also failed to even be able to make it out on the field for most of the season even when he was healthy (Grossman had to plead to get him out there) and there had to be some sort of reason for that.

This is an indication of just how much the Sox think of Adam Russel. I really believe the Sox feel this guy will be one of there primary set-up men two years from now.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 01:39 PM) Not Franchising Berrian Hurts, not matching the Vikes offer doesn't hurt at all. Booker better not be the # 1. I expect him to replace Moose and that's about it. That's what he is fully capable of. Hoping any of Bradley,Bennet or Llyod emerge as a # 1 is a crapshoot. But, it would not be a bigger surprise than when Berrian emerged out of no where a few years back. Having 2 good TE's makes this unproven WR corps a little easier to swallow. Brandon Lloyd has struggled to do anything the past couple of seasons. Therefor, relying on him to be a #1 WR would be like the Bears expecting Orton to put up Peyton Manning or Tom Brady like numbers (in fact, even worse, it would be like expecting Hunter Hillmeyer to be Brian Urlacher). Mark Bradley has had 3 years in this league and has yet to prove himself as a reliable #3, let alone a #1. Bennet is a 3rd round draft pick who has yet to prove anything in the NFL The fact that the Bears have to count on any of these guys to be a #1 is absolutely freaking ridiculous.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 12:02 PM) The guy who has the full name ChiSoxFan is a regular on the other board I post at, and is a daily lurker here but hardly ever posts. Yep, he posts here too on rare occassions.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 01:03 PM) The QB situation I am fine with. I don't think anyone in the draft is going to be playoff QB right now. I would rather go with Rex than what was out there. The Wr situation was a bit tough. No way Berrian was worth what the Vikings gave him, so I am not sad to see him go at that price. I am very pleased with Booker taking over for Muhaumed. It basically comes down to Bradley/Lloyd/Bennett taking over for Berrian. Everyone seems to forget that Berrian would have never had an opportunity to begin with if Bradley never got hurt. If Bradley stays healthy, I am pretty confident that he will do a decent job replacing Berrian. Lloyd and Bennett are Dark horses out of all of this. Who knows what will become of Devin Hester with the WR corps. Also, look for the Bears to run many 2 TE sets. I was most concerned with runing back and Guard. With Kevin Jones abroad, my biggest concern is gone. So as a Bear fan ,with a Healthy D and 2 New RBs I am pretty excited about the new season. Anything short of the playoffs would be very disappointing. Angelo made a huge mistake when he didn't franchise Berrian. He could have signed the one year tender and the Bears would have had a year to be able to better develop and evaluate the WR's on roster. Instead the Bears are left with s*** in the WR cupboard (at least in terms of anyone who has proven anything in the NFL and yes, Booker is s*** if you are expecting him to be a #1 WR; As a 3rd stringer, he's freaking tremendous).

QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Jul 16, 2008 -> 04:43 PM) Well Bobby was filthy. He struck out the side on 12 pitches. Fastball at 96/97, curve was around 89/90. No one had a chance. I would say he is ready to go!! I also sat next to an Indians scout, he was impressed lol. He showed me his gun thats how i got the speeds. Awesome stuff, thanks for all that info.

Well, I once met a porn star and her name was Chisoxfn, so I named myself after her. Turns out that porn star was me and I am a White Sox Fan (ie, ChiSoxFan). Creative eh.

Most entertaining show on TV (not necessarily best, but its always entertaining).

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) Yeah that drives me nuts. Obviously Angelo had no intentions of signing a OG, I don't know why because there were plenty of FAs available he could've had for a modest price, it's not like he had to sign Faneca or anything. Metcalf is absolutely horrible, and that position is a gaping hole unless Beekman turns out to be some kind of ace. Ruben Brown and LeCharles Bentley are still out there. Brown has also had nothing but positive things to say about the org so I still think at the end of the day the Bears will bring Brown in.

And here come the pretzels

I'm surprised the BoSox didn't consider going after him. My guess is they got some good news on the Ortiz front and now believe he'll truly be back by the end of July (instead of potentially out another couple months which had been rumored).

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 10:35 AM) He obviously can hit in the Carolina League as we know. Anyway, according to the Barons broadcasters, significant and "exciting" roster moves are coming today. They couldn't talk about them last night. I wonder just how aggressive they get with Beckham. I can't imagine they would push sign him and send him to AA immediatel, but I can't see who from Winston Salem would be considered exciting. Unless someone from Charlotte is coming down or if the Sox are going to sign someone like Garcia and have him and Elo join the AA roster.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 17, 2008 -> 10:18 AM) If you guys had watched them both play over the past three seasons, you'd agree with me that Valido should go before anyone else. Schnurstein led the Southern League in fielding percentage for first basemen and Valido has 20 errors. 20 boneheaded errors, and that's not being partial or spiteful. That's just the ugly truth about Valido. It just seems a little on the harsh side. I know it's a business, but you don't go that cold on a guy who grew up a diehard White Sox fan and hold onto a pitiful clown who nobody wanted in the Rule 5 draft last December. They should have just demoted him and promoted Brandon Allen or C.J. Retherford. W-S is making a playoff push in the second half and Micah could have helped down there. Valido should have been gone a long time ago because of his production. When you also factor in the facts that a few of us with close contacts win the org have informed us about Valido (I won't go any farther than that as I refuse to put the exact details out there, but if someone looks back at his past they can probably read between the lines).

I enjoyed the first episode. There were a couple slower moments, but overall entertaining. Will definitely keep it on my list of scheduled recordings on the DVR.

Check that, in the process of fixing it.

Fixed. Let me know if anyone has any problems with it now.

Its too bad, I was a guy that really believed in Schnur. He had a little bit of a long swing but hit the ball hard and absolutely raked early on in his career. Very good guy too, one of the better interviews I've ever done and just an all around good guy. I wish him nothing but the very best of luck in the future. Alos, I probably was the person who at one point in time said he had a shot at being better than Fields (although I think I also long stated Fields had more "raw" tools). But we know I've never been as high on Fields (or Anderson during his ascent through the minors) as most experts have.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 16, 2008 -> 07:18 PM) was actually there a week ago, freakin' awesome pizza! first ever pizzeria too. I'm drooling over the idea of a Lombardi's pepperoni and mushroom pizza right now.

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 16, 2008 -> 01:36 PM) I'm back! Freedom feels oh so good. I got out a few days early due to good behavior. It was f***in' brutal while I was in there. I have learned my lesson. Glad you made it out okay and that you've learned your lesson. Welcome back to society!!!!