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Alright Gavin, kick some ass tonight!!

QUOTE (stretchstretch @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 01:39 PM) then again look at the names in the Twins rotation, if they make the playoffs, with that group of nonames and a lineup that is very avg, no one would be figure them to be an automatic first round exit The Twins won't win a world series and if your not capable of winning the series than I question giving up anything significant. Bottom line, this Sox team as is is potentially good enough for the playoffs. Thats about it and the only way I'd consider them World Series contenders is if there pitching gets hot (I expect Floyd/Danks to tire out) or if they acquire a Halladay type guy. Anything less puts them short of being a true World Series contender. I say that in the sense that acquiring Roberts as is, while losing Floyd doesn't make the Sox anymore of a World Series contender as they already are. Same with Duscherer. He isn't the missing piece, even if your not subtracting from the major league team.

I actually think Owings could be a good buy. He hasn't given up a ton of hits despite a ridiculously high ERA and I still think he's at least a league average pitcher who will be under the teams control for a few years. However, I don't see the Dbacks offering those type of chips without getting better now. It would have to be a 3 team deal with Owings/Tracy coming to the Sox and Fields/Poreda going to another team, possibly with an additional prospect or two from Arizona (or Chicago), in exchange for a legit bat.

My guess is if the Sox acquire Roberts and don't trade OC, you'd see Ramirez move to CF with Swisher/Paulie splitting time at 1B (Swisher would also rotate into the OF). This would be a serious offensive upgrade. However, if you are giving up Floyd you've now all of a sudden torn up the rotation. A rotation of Danks, Buehrle, Vaz, Contreras, Richard isn't going to do s*** in the playoffs. In fact, with that s***ty rotation you better be scoring 10 runs a game just to make the playoffs.

Sending Floyd in a deal for a 30+ year old 2nd baseman is f***ing retarded. Plain and simple. There is absolutely no logical explanation behind a move. The only way I'd remotely accept is if the Sox than moved Cabrera and were able to get some uber talented young talent in return (which won't happen). JD, thanks for that info. As always, definitely appreciate that "inside" info!!!

Damn, didn't see this coming. I'm assuming Brandon Inge will take over the catching duties in Detroit? Farnsworth will be a nice upgrade for the Tigers pen and obviously the Tigers have a great offense with or without Pudge.

I'd have a lot of interest in Crosby. He's over-rated by a lot of people but I think he's under-valued as a whole (as he has a lot of nice tools). However, I don't know if there asking price would be similar to the apparent price the O's have for Roberts/Sherril (Floyd & Fields). I wouldn't trade Floyd for anything less than a star player (or another young player whose already proven himself). That doesn't mean Floyd straight up, but I'm talking about Floyd in a package for an ace starter or premiere baseball player (none of which can be rentals). Roberts does not fit that bill and I will f***ing vomit if Kenny makes that rumored deal with Bmore.

Alright Paulie, its time for you to start kicking ass!!!

They aught to set the FDIC insured amount to $100K + an inflation adjustment based upon the CPI.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 10:46 AM) Boy that just don't sound right If thats what it took, I wouldn't be opposed

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 11:31 AM) I thought that was me (just ask Rowand44). My guess would be, the Sox would have to deal an offensive piece (not Konerko unfortunately) or prospects to get him. I would offer Crede straight up, or maybe try to use Fields and get something back along with Tracy (but the D-Backs have a Fields clone in Mark Reynolds I guess). I wonder if they would be interested in Swisher actually? Or Clayton Richard, because they need a 5th starter with Owings in AAA. I remember me and you always dreaming up different ways to get Tracy.

QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 09:25 AM) Could you comment a little more on this issue? I'd like to hear your perspective on it. Seems like the age-issue has developed its own mythology with many fans and it would be nice to know what is 'real'. The Age issue went away after 9/11 when the US cracked down on the fake birth certificates and that sort of stuff. The young players just can't get away with that phony documentation anymore, at least not when it comes to them playing professionally within the states (minor league or major league level). If they are playing in the Venezuelan leagues there is the possibility that they aren't the age they indicate. Realistically the only players who could be of the wrong age are players who already were granted visas pre 9/11 (El Duque, Contreras, etc).

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 05:12 AM) Saw There Will Be Blood over the weekend. What an odd movie. Seriously, I was puzzled through that entire movie going what the hell am I watching.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 04:45 PM) There's so many jokes one could make about this one... Seriously, don't get in the doorway during an earthquake. Get under a table or desk. The doorway thing is an old myth because when people built houses 50 years ago with those big, powerful doorways, the house would get demolished but that doorway would wind up standing. Most doorways don't do anything similar these days. s*** thanks for informing me of that. I always would get under the doorway during an earthquake. It was what I was taught (unless I was in school, in which case we did the hands over our head and kneck while we were under the desk).

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 09:05 AM) why didn't anybody tell me Puddle of Mudd concerts suck? I left like an hour into it and just went to the bar to get hammered. Now I have a headache. The fact that the band came to the Dakota's should have been the first hint that they blow.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 04:57 AM) As a rule, you don't have companies keeping that much cash in a bank, they have the money working for them. And if they do have that much cash, it's usually tied to a line of credit that's underwrited by A/R or some other collateral - so I would think that they would just simply lose access to that short term cash. I agree that most instances have any short term cash sitting in something that is making additional money, but often times that will be a money-market account and don't those fall under the same risks that a typical savings/checking account would have (and the standard FDIC $100K).

We know how infatuated I've been with Tracy in the past. I really like this guy as an above average 6 hole hitter. He can play both 3B and 1B and would be a great acquisition because he could have a long-term future with the club as well. I don't know what the Dbacks would be looking for though. They want to improve there offense so I'm guessing any piece the Sox give up for Tracy would have to be a piece the Dbacks could use to acquire a big bat. Surely they would have no interest in Konerko, despite the fact that they have previously been rumored to have interest (no recent rumors).

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 08:00 AM) He had Spahn as well on a close pitch. He seemed to get jobbed although he was always near the zone. I liked how quickly he worked and he seemed like he could really project into a nice pitcher he lookedot have a good upside. Ya, that 5th inning I was questioning the umps zone. I don't think he pitched to the point that he should have given up 5 runs in that inning, thats for certain. Mauer/Morneau were the only guys who actually hit the ball hard. Defensively the Sox once again looked like s*** behind him, but than again, thats been the norm on the season.

If those three guys are healthy and on the court come playoff time, you are talking about a title contender. Rafer Alston, Luis Scala, Head, etc are all solid role players.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 06:49 AM) I don't think you know what you're talking about. He refused to sign the 5-50 deal that was offered by the Bulls, as did Ben Gordon. Even after a down year, Deng still averaged 17 points and 6.3 boards despite being injured most of the season. I have a feeling he'll be averaging 22/8 this year. Deng has a tremendous attitude, has continued to work out and improve and had a down season and still put up pretty good numbers. The kid is going to be a very good player and I still believe that him and Sefolosha will be the best Bulls long-term (yes, thats right, I'm not slurping Derrick Rose).

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:57 PM) I wonder if we could deal Gordon and Hinrich to NY for David Lee... That would be a terrible deal, value wise.

Sox won't deal Poreda unless they are getting something pretty special. They think very highly of Aaron.

I will s*** a brick if the Sox acquire Fuentes. Why you ask, because I can't imagine how much the club would be overpaying for a reliever who will be walking in the off-season.

Alright Sox, time to wake the f*** back up and start playing baseball again (I'm speaking about pitching & defense).

Interesting stuff. That lefty sounds like a nice projectable arm that I would love to get into the Sox farm system. Hopefully Cuban players have taken note to the success Contreras and Ramirez have had with the Sox and that this makes the Sox one of the front-runners to get Cuban defectors (or at least those that aren't looking to completely break the bank).