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ODDS AND ENDS
ODDS AND ENDS Written By: Mario Scalise http://www.soxnet.net/oddsandends.html Odds and Ends with mario scalise --- September 27th, 2002 --- The season is now three days away from ending, finally. The Sox stand at 81-78, guarenteeing themselves a fairly respectable .500 record as they have used these remaining two months of the season to focus in on 2003. Problem is the 2003 team is still not set, or even close to it. The only thing the Sox have decided on is that there will be a lot of decisions to be decided on. As far as these past few days, its been pretty good. Not only did they sweep the Twins in a series where they outscored the AL Central champs 32 to 8, but they ended the Red Sox last second hope for the playoffs by taking the series two games to one. Analytical View White Sox GM Kenny Williams announced that the Sox will pursue a "top of the line" starter in the off-season and that righty Todd Ritchie will return to the Sox next season. Big question is what does KW mean by "top of the line". Do we take it for its actual meaning, which is a starter such as Tom Glavine. Or do we take it as someone who is good enough to pitch behind Mark Buehrle and ahead of Jon Garland. That too is a wide gap to decipher as on one side you have a proven pitcher going for 20 wins, and on the other an improving pitcher who has yet to reach his potential. So top of the line as of this moment could be Orlando Hernandez of the Yankees for all we know. The return of Todd Ritchie? Although it is more of a move on KW's part to get a second shot at a trade that backfired, with a little tweaking, Todd Ritchie could turn into that #2 they initially thought he would become. GM Kenny Williams and Manager Jerry Manuel both expressed their approval of the play of Carlos Lee, and believe Lee is on the verge of showing his true potential. The Sox have been quiet with revealing where the 2003 team stands, but this could indicate the departing of Thomas. Speculation all season had the Sox dumping one of the two with the presence of the young guys: Joe Borchard, Joe Crede, Jeff Liefer, Aaron Rowand. And while Lee has been spoken highly of, Thomas has been treated with the "wait and see" approach. Performance Report On the Mound With Thursday's 7 1/3, 2 run performace against the Red Sox, Danny Wright has practically assured himself a spot in the 2003 rotation. Onto the quest for 20. Buehrle was in a tough spot two starts ago; he needed three wins for 20 wins, with only three starts remaining, leaving no room for error. Since, he has given up just three runs in two starts, spanning across 13 inning, and has a legit shot at win #20 this weekend when he goes up against the playoff-bound Minnesota Twins. Rocky Biddle, who has been seen more of a temporary starter than future starter, is vying for the #5 spot on next years rotation. Out of the Pen Reliever Keith Foulke is now getting antsy as he is just days away from seasons end and he still has no clue as to what he will be, a starter or reliever. Known is that he won't be traded according to Kenny Williams. One thing looks to be for sure, Matt Ginter and Jim Parque are no longer in the teams plans. The Sox have used them for a combined 4 2/3 innings since September 5th. In the Field A little confusion came with the last issue regarding Joe Crede's error total (7). This wasn't done as a knock, but to simply inform. My personal view of Crede on defense is one word, promising. Although he still lacks proper footwork and positioning, he's quick, shows good range, a strong and rather accurate arm, and soft hands. Good assets for what looks to be a phenominal hitter.
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Why I hate life a bit
That sounds like a bad week. Don't worry though, highschool isn't as important as everyone makes it out to be. I'm a pretty smart guy, and I never really had much higher then a 3.0 throughout highschool and was lazy as can be. Now that I'm in college I'm ripping it up despite always being a complete lazy bum who never did homework. It sucks when you miss all that time. Anyway, hope your feeling better. By the way, how did you get a leak in your lungs anyway?
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Hey Bush how's that economy doing now?
I'll hold back from arguing, at least right now. Let me also say that its still doing better then at any point in the 90's or 80's even after you account for inflation and everything else. Also, what did you expect to happen. Did you really expect to see the stock market keep booming when all of those Tech Companies were worth well over a hundred dollars despite the fact that they weren't making any money and never had made any money. The fact was they had to come down and it was ridiculous how high the PE ratios were for a long long time. Heck, the market still hasn't reached its low point if you ask me and it will continue going down for a while, imo.
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SN Report: Carlos Lee To Miss Final Series
That rhymes with Lee Dungaree.
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I'm new, let me introduce myself
Ya, we don't have any problem with posting on multiple sites. I post on multiple sites and to me if your a Sox fan and love posting elsewhere then go have fun. The way I see it, posting and everything else should be fun.
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free agent list
I'd take Clemens or plenty of relievers. I'll go through it a little later when I'm not on my lunch break and home from work.
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So much for all our talk
Exactly, it will be good to have a #1 and #2 in Buerhle and a FA or Trade Guy, and then have Garland and Wright turn into a #2 as well. That way we'd have a rotation much closer to the A's.
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Foulke Won't Be Traded
I saw it in a couple articles. I don't see a problem in having Foulke, marte, Osuna and Glover. They are the vet presence of the pen. Then dump Ginters lame self, keep one of Porzio or Wunsch and bring up Valentine and a lefty.
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SN Report: Carlos Lee To Miss Final Series
No she won't, but I think she'll like the fact that KW isn't or doesn't expect to trade Carlos Lee. The way I see it, its a good way to give Jeff Liefer and Borchard some more playing time.
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To Put A Face To The Name
I got one, just go to www.bearstalk.com and click on the staff page, I'm Jason, aka DABEARSDABOMB.
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I'm new, let me introduce myself
Welcome aboard Gashwound. Glad to have ya over here. Like I always say, The more the merrier.
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Hey Mario
I can bowl about 150-180 with the crappy lane balls they give you.
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SN Report: Carlos Lee To Miss Final Series
Carlos Lee To Miss Final Series By: Mario Scalise White Sox left fielder Carlos Lee, who left to be with his pregnant wife in Panama before Thursday's game against the Red Sox, will miss the final season series against the Twins this weekend. Lee, 26, batted .264 this season with 26 home runs, 80 runs batted in, and a .484 slugging percentage. The most significant stat of all is Lee's walk to strikeout ratio which is 75/73. Lee is the only Sox player with more than 30 games, who has more walks than strikeouts.
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Foulke Won't Be Traded
Ken Williams said that Keith Foulke is not on the trade block and that he doesn't care whether he pays him 6 million a year to set up Marte. Personally thats a good combination of set up men with Foulke coming in the eight and Marte in the ninth. Plus Osuna would also act as a set up man. All 3 pitchers have different stuff so they'd all give the opponents different looks. Osuna is all about his hard fastball. Foulke is about control and his nasty circle change while Marte is a lefty with side winding action, great control, and a nasty slider.
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Shane Reynolds?
I'd love either Benson or kennedy. Both are cheap pitchers with good stuff that could help our team. The big question is what would we need to give up. In the Pirates circumstance i think they are looking for offensive help as well as a replacement for Kendall, whom they'd like to move. I'd look to give them Caballo, an infield prospect, and MJ or Paul for Kris Benson any day of the week. Of course I'd be willing to give them either Harris, Hummel or Miles as the infield prospect if they take Liefer instead of Carlos.
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Interesting stat
Thats weird, for some reason I thought we didn't have that many come from behind wins. I too thought the Angels had the most. I guess it just depends on what they call a come from behind win.
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So much for all our talk
This is probably a good thing. We can hold onto Lee till at least the break because Borchard could definately use more time in AAA, and even a full year would only benefit him. If we let him figure things out down there, then when he comes to the big show we won't see as big of a drop off. We are a team that can afford to bring our hitters along slowly and thats a good thing, imo. As far as the #2 starter thing goes, I don't buy we leave Wright their. I just got a hunch we go get someone. KW has and never will be afraid to go out and make the move. Whether its the right move I don't know, but he will do something, I can guarantee you that.
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BA more sox
Typically strong relievers have better sucess when they come up to the majors as well. The thing is usually teams don't have many solid relievers but our system has them stocked. I think KW has noticed that the real good teams like the Yanks and Mariners have had strong strong bullpens. The problem is typically you have to have a lot of money to have a strong bullpen. I think KW's plan is to always have you guys that come up and as players grow we eventually move them on for more talent. I think we will tend to take a keep them for a while, then deal them, but only as long as we still have proven depth in the pen. Its kind of why we will end up moving Foulke.
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Crede article
We know one thing, if Greg was the GM, Crede would of been dealt for a PTBNL, lol. Sometimes we just got to be patient and if we aren't playing for anything why not let the guys get a shot to get comfortable. He's going to be one of the top 3rd baseman in the majors.
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thomas question
I still say look for a renegotiation where he gets like 6 million a year now over the remainder of the contract, but if he performs then the old contract gets renewed into place where he can make 10 million.
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Keith Closes
Well, they would definately be willing to move him, but we need to know the future of the Expos. If they stay in Montreal they will have to dump salary meaning that guys like Colon will be gone. The problem is do we really want to give up a package that would include Malone, Honel and probably someone else.