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Korver hitting outside shots is huge for the Bulls. Heat play collapse defense, so if Korver can threaten from the perimeter it will give Rose and others more room inside.

I live in Chicago, I was born in Illinois and I didnt even know Marquette was a rival of Wisconsin until after I left college and met Marquette fans. As I said, my information comes from my Marquette friends. Whether you want to believe it or not, that is your call. But it is well documented that Crean over signs and that there have been players who have decided to transfer when the team had too many scholarships. Now maybe you are right and Tom Crean did not do it at Marquette, I dont know what your connections are to Marquette or if you have better information than me.

No, I found a story that confirmed what Marquette fans have been telling me for years. The website is called "oversigning.com" and the websites goal is to show oversigning in all sports, football, basketball, etc. It is not run by an Illinois fan or Wisconsin fan, so if you dont agree with that website, its fine, but that website calls out a lot of coaches for the practice. Maybe everyone else who has told me about Crean is wrong, I dont really know, and I quite frankly dont really care. A comment was made that a player may not have committed to Indiana due to Crean's practice of over signing, and Tom Crean admits that he wants to over sign every class. If you over-sign every class, eventually you are going to have to many scholarships. Now maybe every kid has left out of the kindness of their heart, but based on the information I have been told by Marquette fans, I doubt that is the case. I dont have any real information on Crean at Indiana, which is why I quoted someone else's comments. /shrugs That is just a fabrication. He may go JUCO because if he transfers into D-1 hed have to sit a year, correct? So by red shirting last year and sitting this year, hell have gone 2 years without playing a single competitive game. Furthermore, if he goes JUCO he can then transfer from the JUCO to a school of his choice. So no, he doesnt have to go JUCO. There are plenty of schools he can go to, Big East, SEC, ACC, Pac 10, MVC, etc, etc. Even if its true Bo has restricted both Big 10 and Big 12, that still leaves about a hundred other D-1 options.

Sorry I cant find any articles from Tom Crean's Marquette days, but I did post an article about Indiana, which you seemingly choose to ignore. http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/2...lock/#more-1419 Now onto your unproven facts: Prove it, no one knows what the restrictions are right now. And many people are assuming the ISU restriction is because Hoiberg actively recruited Uthoff to transfer. But Im sure that Crean would be okay with Zeller transferring to UNC if it turned out Roy Williams kept telling Zeller hed be an immediate starter. Your argument has no merit, you are entirely speculating what the transfer restriction is. Uthoff has not even commented. The only person who has, is Uthoff's AAU coach and here is his comment, and I quote: HE DIDNT GET SPECIFIC WITH ME. I GOT THE IMPRESSION EVEN GOT THE IMPRESSION So the fact is, the AAU coach was not specifically told 1 restriction. So keep on your little rant about how Bo Ryan is such a bad guy. Its hilarious and nonsensical. You dont even know the facts, the person who is quoted doesnt know the facts. Badger fans are speculating ISU is on the list, but none of them know for sure. There is a lot of speculation, including that there may have been tampering and that is why Bo isnt letting him go to certain schools. But Im not just going to throw allegations around like that, they are complete heresay and I have no basis to believe they are true. That being said, over signing is completely different than restricting transfers. Wisconsin doesnt over sign, they have held this scholarship for Uthoff for years, he now wants to renege on his word, and Wisconsin is letting him go. Wisconsin has every right to decline his transfer and force him to stay 4 more years. Instead Wisconsin is trying to work a deal with him that does not end up hurting the school. Yes Crean has helped players move, players that he has no room for. I cant recall one instance where Crean "helped" a top recruit go to another big time program, maybe you can refresh my memory. Uthoff is someone the Badgers were building around, he doesnt want to be there, that is fine, but the Badgers have every right to condition his release. He already agreed to 4 years with Wisconsin. Entirely different then when you have 12 scholarships, give out 13 and ask a player who is already on scholarship to move on. In fact its the exact opposite scenario, Wisconsin wants the player to stay and the player wants to leave.

Are you seriously comparing Bo Ryan, who wants a player to honor his commitment, to Crean, who pushes kids out of the program? Uthoff has a spot on the Wisconsin roster, he took a scholarship from other players for a full season. He now wants to move on, Bo Ryan is agreeing to allow him to move on to certain schools. If Uthoff wanted to go to Iowa or Iowa State, he could have made that decision. You are acting like Ryan isnt allowing him out of the scholarship, you have no idea what the restrictions are. I guarantee that if Zeller wanted to transfer to OSU, Crean would say no.

So I guess Jarrod Uthoff has surprisingly asked for a transfer from Wisconsin after redshirting this year. I believe Uthoff was Iowa basketball player of the year. Sounds like the Wisconsin staff is not that pleased and likely will restrict him from transferring to any Big 10 school, Iowa State or Marquette.

It also depends on your circuit. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12/1263650.html Seminole County (where Sanford is located): White persons, percent, 2010 (a) 78.2% Black persons, percent, 2010 (a) 11.1% Jackson County (Where special prosecutor is located): White persons, percent, 2010 (a) 69.1% Black persons, percent, 2010 (a) 26.6% Now surprisingly Sanford population Black persons, percent, 2010 (a) 30.5% As you can see, the Original DA who passed on the charges came from a County that was not as racially diverse as the County that the Special Prosecutor is from. What may be bad for one political group may be good for another.

I just am not a fan of over signing, I dislike it in football and basketball. I think that once a player signs a LOI the school should honor it for 4 years, I also think that once a player signs they should have to honor it for 4 years unless both parties agree. As for why kids havent spoken up? Most newspapers dont write articles about bench players who transfer to another school. You dont see a lot about it anywhere, even though its considered a widespread practice. For me, I just would never want a coach who wants to over-sign every year, I personally wish it was against the rules.

Wade a child until the very end tries to hit Watson in the face.

lol Miami quit and the Bulls are still trying to get the ball.

lol Woooooooo the jack up the 3 play comes through!

Its hard to believe that these words are going to be typed, but the Bulls were probably better off if Rose didnt play today.

Sure Miami is athletic, but bounce passes in the paint to big men are a risky play in general, let alone with Miami collapsing on defense. Better to dribble it out and jack up a 3 basically.

Bang finally called a play to take advantage of the Korver overplay.

Bulls need to play cleaner on offense. Need to at least get a shot at the rim because they are getting so many second chances. Tricky passes in the paint are unnecessary up 5 with 2 minutes left.

I think Asik got Wade in the face ha.

I mean seriously what was the play there, give it to Korver triple teamed?

God damnit a ridiculous shot is made. But cant the Bulls draw up a better frickin play.

I guess use Korver as a decoy and get Deng a wide open 3 again?

Come on Butler win this damn tip.

This is a game the Bulls should have won. Unfortunately Thibs decided to go with injured Rose on Wade in the most crucial part of the game and you just cant do that. It would be a tough loss if they do end uplosing but entirely avoidable, these are the games that the Bulls just cant lose in the playoffs if they want to go to the finals.

Terrible personnel decisions going on here, its just unimaginable.

They were lucky but you know now that Wade is going to play hero ball so why not call a time out and put in Deng so you can have a better defender on Wade, instead of Rose who is clearly not 100%.

How can you keep Rose on Wade what are you thinking.

Bosh really helping the bulls, seeing as Rose is on Wade and Wade is making nonsensical shots.