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QUOTE (fathom @ May 29, 2013 -> 09:35 PM) Great, now those 2 runs credited to Santiago will be used by people on here to point out he should never start again Santiago proves yet again there is little value in a long reliever. We will still see people somehow defend the move of him to the bullpen.

Best longman in the game kids

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 29, 2013 -> 08:40 PM) Good thing we got the best mop up man in the league. I was joking, but they actually are warming him up. Ugh.

Good thing we got the best mop up man in the league.

I laughed hard when Stone said that too

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ May 29, 2013 -> 03:26 PM) Bertrand is efficient within considered any small sample size. If his shots go up, I expect efficiency will go down. Likewise, I thought Rice was fairly inefficient while at Drake. Illiefficients trying to replace a LOT of production this year. Without sizable increases in production fom Egwu and Abrams, Rice being able to replace the majority of Paul's scoring, and Ekey/Starks giving the Illini a semblance of a perimeter threat, next year is going to be a struggle to the middle of the B1G. There are a lot of good pieces in place but almost no experience. The freshman class is talented, but likely short on instant impact talent. Let's temper expectations please. I woukd say it is just the opposite with Bertrand. We've seen it before. The bigger the focal point of the offense he is, the more confidence he gets and the basket is seemingly an ocean. The most shots he has taken in games has been the best and most efficient games he has had fir the most part. Really excited to see what he can do as the team leader If he is healthy. As for Rice, he shot better than any of the departing seniors. We will see how he does vs. The BT. My minimum expectations, as always, is to make the tournament. This is not a hard feat and shoukd not even be considered much of an accomplishment.

Last year's team was a lot more dynamic, but incredibly inefficient. Betrand is about as efficient as a guard can get. Starks and Rice too are efficient players. We will see how it plays out.

The fix is on.

Wikipedia has a surprisingly interesting article on rain delay rules: Generally, Major League Baseball teams will continue play in light to moderate rain but will suspend play if it is raining heavily or if there is standing water on the field. Games can also be delayed or canceled for other forms of inclement weather, or if the field is found to be unfit for play, and for other unusual causes such as bees. Bee delays and cancellations have occurred in games such as the spring training game in 2005 that was canceled, as well as the 2009 Astros-Padres game that was delayed in the ninth inning. However, rain is by far the most common cause for cancellations or stoppages of play. Before a baseball game commences, unless it is the second game of a doubleheader, the manager of the home team is in charge of deciding whether or not the game should be delayed or canceled due to rain or other inclement weather (see Rule 3.10 of baseball's Official Rules). Once the home team manager hands his lineup card to the umpire shortly before the game is to begin, the umpire-in-chief has sole discretion to decide if a game should be delayed or canceled (see Rule 3.10 and Rule 4.01 of the Official Rules). This also applies to the second game of a doubleheader. Umpires are required by rule to wait at least 30 minutes to see if conditions improve; this is referred to as a rain delay and is not counted as part of the length of the game listed in the box score. In practice, umpires are encouraged to see that games are played if at all possible, and will sometimes wait as long as three hours before declaring a rainout. If a game is rained out before play begins, it is rescheduled for a later date. If it has already begun and rain falls, several scenarios are used to determine the need to resume play: If the game has completed the top half of the 5th inning and the home team is ahead, the game can be deemed an official game. The home team is declared the winner, and the game officially counts in standings. If the game has completed the bottom half of the 5th inning and either team is ahead, the game can be deemed an official game. The leading team is declared the winner, and the game officially counts in standings. (In some Minor League Baseball and college games, this scenario is possible only in the final game of a series.) However, if the game is rained out prior to the completion of an inning in which the visiting team scored one or more runs to take the lead, and the home team has not retaken the lead, the game is suspended, to be resumed at a later date. If the game has completed the 5th inning, and the teams are tied, if the game is a playoff game (regardless of inning), or in college and some Minor League Baseball games, it is not the final game in the series (the first or second game in a three-game series, also regardless of inning), the game is considered suspended, and the resumption of the game is scheduled for a future date (usually the following day). The game picks up from where it left off. If none of the previous scenarios apply, the game can not be deemed official. The umpire declares "No Game," and a make-up of the game is scheduled for a future date unless it is not feasible. The latter occurs mainly among the minor leagues and college due to travel schedules, and only in the major leagues among teams that have been declared mathematically eliminated from postseason play where no benefit in the standings would be derived. The statistics compiled during the rained out game are not counted. In the Major League Baseball postseason, all games stopped at any time for weather are considered suspended and continued from the point of stoppage when play resumes, no matter if the game has not reached the requirements above.[2] This rule was put into place as a result of Game 5 of the 2008 World Series, which was the first postseason game in history to be suspended and resumed from the point of suspension. Prior to 2008, a playoff game had to be official in order to be suspendable; a playoff game stopped prior to that point had to be started over. An example was Game 1 of the 1982 National League Championship Series which reached the top of the fifth inning but had to be restarted from scratch the next day.

I forget, what is the criteria for the makeup vs. Resumed game?

Dunn and Konerko swinging at ball four...

Ump does have a low strike zone though.

....dont swing the bat.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 29, 2013 -> 12:27 AM) 2-0 Cubs.....................this will be the night Edwin Jackson goes off to have his best game of the year. Even if he no hits us, we should be able to walk about 15 times.

Dan Hayes is brutal. So is this inning

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 28, 2013 -> 09:09 PM) You think it's impossible to win a World Series next year with a rotation of Sale, Peavy, Danks, Quintana, & Santiago? You honestly think there are no set of moves that Hahn could make to improve the offense enough to win a World Series? Ha

Not to derail the other thread... Would love to see him sent down to find his control. We dont want to see Heath or Veal up here again, so who are the potential replacements? Not a huge deal since he is likely the last man in the pen. But adding an actual MLB arm would be huge. What about Santos Rodriguez? 25, beasting AA, and has AAA experience. FS lists him as a future closer. I guess I must be missing something on why he hasn't been given a chance yet.

For anyone who has seen him pitch, any reason why Santos Rodriguez won't be given a chance? He is 25 and is beasting AA this year after a promotion to Charlotte last year. FutureSox has him as a future MLB closer.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 28, 2013 -> 06:27 PM) I have been suggesting Gimenez get more playing time for a few weeks now and apparently you don't want Santiago or Jones in the bullpen . So you must expect the starters to go 9 innings every game or don''t care if the Sox lose games after the starters go 7 or 8 quality innings. Or you expect their miracle replacements to magically appear and make the pen better. Well, we can replace them, so that's bad logic. Jones has an era of over 7 in the bullpen. I dont care if he is gone or not, but nearly any replacement would be better than him. I am fine with Gimenez getting a lot more at bats, but he is a bad MLBer too. Probably better than Flowers though.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 28, 2013 -> 06:06 PM) when the players are as bad as Flowers and Jones, the who replaces isn't the primary concern. Yep. We are talking about some of the worst players in all of MLB. Surprised to see anyone defend their roster spots. As for Phegley, he doesn't seem to be much of a prospect. We should probably not worry about his service time, lack of track record, or rushing him. At best we ride his hot bat for awhile and go from there. At worst, he is as bad as Flowers and it doesn't matter anyways. We move on and try to solve our catching woes.

Our catching situation is bad right now (even worse than I was saying it would be this past off season). Meanwhile, Phegley is tearing up AAA. In the very least, he can't be any worse than Flowers...right? I dont think that is possible. Are we really thst concerned about the service time of Josh Phegley? This at the potential cost of victories at the major league level?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 28, 2013 -> 02:18 AM) Didn't Colon or Garcia start ? It was fairly early in the season, April or May? Just looked uo the box score. Fatolo started. 8 runs, only one error. Betemit with two errors, but his defense was worse than that. Someone named Gobble pitched for us. Who? Edit: oh Jimmy Gobble of Royals fame. No recollection of him being with the Sox.

I was at the worst game in Sox history. Vs the Twins. 20 to 1. I remember Betemit making about ten errors.

Maybe the worst game of the year. That is saying domething.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2013 -> 02:29 AM) Quintana shouldn't be in the rotation? That is not what he said