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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:33 PM) KW is the bad guy because he din't care that his GM and manager gave their OK for this arraingment when signing the player, and made their word worthless. Who's to say in all of this the agreement wasn't "he's welcome as much as he wants in the clubhouse unless it's a distraction to teammate(s)". No one in that pathetic clubhouse says a word last year, and the new guys come in and say something.

I just can't see how LaRoche would want this becoming a lawsuit. Does he really want to have his ex-teammates giving statements about if they do/don't like his son in the clubhouse?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:27 AM) Maddon said he wants no part of a kids in the clubhouse policy. He said it is up to the players to police it themselves. Same with Ventura. Too bad for KW that he's the bad guy cause LaRoche wouldn't adhere to the wishes of a few teammates/coaches.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:11 PM) That's not Jessie Rogers trolling, that's all Cubs. Yep....but I thought they don't concern themselves with the White Sox?

How cute https://twitter.com/ESPNChiCubs/status/710602614900019201

Groce shouldn't see another day at coach of U of I.

No shock, but Nightengale seems to be supporting KW during this: Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 31m31 minutes ago Several GMs have met w their managers today to review policy on kids in #MLB clubhouses. Most clubs prohibit kids from being on field.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 10:17 PM) I have no background in law, but I thought that was very telling as well. They don't teach law in the clubhouse?

Seriously, did any of these idiots read what KW actually said to LaRoche? The Cubs players/Manager might be dumber than their fans. Patrick Mooney ‏@CSNMooney 58m58 minutes ago Joe Maddon: “We’re all for kids on the infield. They do have their own lockers. We get them whatever toys they would like Gordon Wittenmyer ‏@GDubCub 2h2 hours ago Arrieta on LaRoche/Sox: “It kind of makes me mad to see this kind of thing happen. I want my teammates’ kids in the clubhouse.”

I hate to admit that it's Jemele Hill that made a great point, but for everyone asking if KW would have done this if LaRoche played well last year....would LaRoche have quit if he was coming off of a good season?

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:23 PM) If the MLBPA wins the grievance case (if it gets filed at all), do the Sox as an organization get punished in any way? Yep, Sale is automatically a FA

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:23 PM) Good, can't wait for the judge to way in on this crap. LaRoche hasn't even returned calls to Tony Clark about it.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:20 PM) Most important thing from that: An ESPN report that the White Sox players considered boycotting Wednesday’s spring game in show of support for LaRoche wasn’t incorrect but was also “exaggerated,” a source said. It was a thought among a few players that didn’t gain any more traction, the source said. Yep, and I like the fact that Frazier (and supposedly Sale) were the guys saying they had to play.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:15 PM) I HIGHLY doubt he'll "unretire" now. He's not a moron. He has to know all the hoopla surrounding this incident and I can't see him going back into the Sox clubhouse again. I see a pretty easy path to return, especially with ST almost over. There's a way for him and KW to come out of this looking like they came to an agreement, and the players would take him back.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:12 PM) I think that is taken a bit out of context. The kid is doing schoolwork that the school district gives them, and taking tests at appropriate times. I think LaRoche means actually being in school wasn't important. That is debatable as well, but not as much as what it first looks like. I would disagree with him if he did actually mean what was written. Personally, everyone should be allowed to raise their kids as they want in terms of school. From all reports, he's very well-behaved. As long as he's doing well on the standardized tests, LaRoche should be allowed to do as he pleases with his kids.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/03/17/whi...-laroche-drama/

This was posted 14 hours ago, but thought it was interesting that LaRoche's meat company retweeted it: Desmond Howard ‏@DesmondHoward 14h14 hours ago Hmmmm, I'm thinking that Adam LaRoche will have a very short "retirement".

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 08:05 PM) He has a perpetual contract. If JR doesn't want him to leave, unless he outright quits, he is going nowhere. JR won't let him talk to other teams. He basically is the White Sox president except for title. It's already been said that JR approved of Kenny's actions going into it.

QUOTE (skooch @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:03 PM) On the bright side ... MLB WAR Leaders: 1. LaRoche, Drake (CWS) +1.4 2. Trout, Mike (LAA) 0.0 2. Harper, Bruce (WAS) 0.0 2. Cabrera, Miguel (DET) 0.0 2. Donaldson, Josh (TOR) 0.0 Salary = negative $13,000,000

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 08:56 PM) There is something wrong with the structure of Reisdorf lead teams. The comparisons between the Bulls and Sox front offices are scary. I'm just sick of the regular drama that follows this franchise. Even IF Willaims is falling on the sword which most of us thought was the case, he didn't have everyone on board with the plan, clearly with leaks from the clubhouse meeting and Eaton talking. It wasn't handled the right way from a PR front, which just adds to a long list of issues. I'm just done with it. Don't disagree with anything you say here. I know today's an off day, but I strongly disagree with everyone in the front office being quiet today. Story just continues to build with no damage control being done.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 07:52 PM) Well, the slim chance of Sale coming back to the Sox after his contract is up has officially bit the dust. Yeah, that's about the least concerning thing of this whole issue to be honest. Have fun with all those innings on the elbow/shoulder by the time he's a FA.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 07:52 PM) Fathom - where did you see that Hahn/RV asked KW to talk to laroche? "they" - players

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 07:48 PM) The more this goes on, the more is becomes clear this isn't a LaRoche/players issue. It all centers around Kenny Williams. That is the root of this issue, and so many others. How so? That seems the opposite of everything we've heard today.

Also, wouldn't be surprising if Renteria came into ST and said "WTF is this" to Kenny about the kid

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 07:44 PM) I think this will blow over eventually, but if it doesn't and the White Sox tank in 2016, my prediction is RH...gone. RV...gone. KW takes back the GM seat. I'm half-expecting to log on tomorrow to read Hahn quit