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Looks like LaRoche and company still going at it: E3 Meat Company ‏@E3Meat 1h1 hour ago Baseball is a game started by a father & son playing catch! @e3laroche #familyfirst He really needs to make a decision and then stop trying to win this argument in the media.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 05:12 PM) I'm not sure why anyone respects Kaplan's opinions. The guy is a tool and a Cubs homer to boot. Seems he talked to someone with the last name of LaRoche, as the story matches what Dave LaRoche said.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 04:05 PM) Have you noticed that Kaplan did a complete about face? There are 2 or 3 videos on CSN, in which he is very vehemently critical of La Roche, and supportive of management. I wonder what caused the change of view? Those were before he talked to someone in the LaRoche camp

So the game they almost boycotted was yesterday's and not Tuesday's (which took place after the meeting with LaRoche). This is a little more concerning. Also pretty pathetic that JR, KW and Hahn are going to meet next week to discuss clubhouse access for management. What a ridiculous situation. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14993803...mp;sf22718540=1

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:49 PM) Kaplan is a blowhard You know I love a fellow Cubs homer

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) Exactly. LaRoche retires and walks away from $13M because he was told that his kid should be in the clubhouse less than 50% of the time, and the rest of the team refuses to go play baseball and earn their multi-million dollar contracts. It's just embarrassing. I have no idea how managers put up with this crap. It's not that hard to envision: 1) LaRoche is a well-respected veteran in the clubhouse 2) The players like have his son around 3) Big, bad KW decides to change a policy that was agreed upon with LaRoche when he signed 4) LaRoche, choosing family first, leaves 13 million on the table 5) Players support LaRoche over management, and want to boycott a game to show their support

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 04:33 PM) To be honest, KW should have handled it because it appears KW ok-ed the situation in the first place. I dont think LaRoche asked Ventura if it was ok and if his kid could have a locker, it was very likely he asked Hahn and KW Kaplan said last night it was Hahn and Ventura who said it was fine last year

KW had Jerry's approval

QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:09 PM) you are still not getting it. Regardless if he is playing the kid is around all the time. The batboys and girls are not in the locker room. There is no change in the policy. Kids are still welcome. Unfortunately, the sox as most teams, assume that a player would not abuse the privilege of bringing kids in. He is not banned from the clubhouse. He just can't be there all the time. And the pro-LaRoche people are acting like he was given an ultimatum that it's either all the time or none of the time. I'm happy the Sox didn't say none of the time, because in theory that's something that could hurt them trying to attract players.

Why are we not laughing more at Rabbit's tweet back to Chipper Jones last night? Brian Bilek ‏@BrianBilek_ Brian Bilek Retweeted Chipper Jones 3 marriages & a knocked up Hooters waitress in 2 decades. #FamilyFirst...except when you're eating wings & get horny

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:54 PM) Can someone give me a summary of the past 200 or so posts? Thanks in advance. And we have another person saying it was agreed upon when LaRoche signed that Drake could be in the clubhouse.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) Dave LaRoche with some comments. http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/16781...adbpr=595667888 "He would've never signed with the White Sox had they not agreed that it was fine for Drake to be there. Someone either wasn't truthful or changed the rules."

With what so many professional athletes do on the road, it's amazing to me they'd ever want any particular kid so heavily involved in the clubhouse. It's one thing to know your teammates will keep their mouth shut, but it's another to trust a teenager to keep secrets.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) Congrats Bmags! My son is almost 9 months old now...there's nothing like it. Enjoy the last few months before he's running away from you

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) Yes again the kid being there or not shouldn't deter Laroche or the players from playing. They are paid a crap load of money to play baseball. Most Americans leave their kids to go to work. How is LaRoche the exception to the rule. I still think part of the boycott was due to the schedule for stretching before the game being thrown off.

Just to put a smile on everyone's face, I present this: http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/03/16/should...eff-samardzija/

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:20 PM) This is about the team meeting they had: Christopher Crawford ‏@CVCrawfordBP 59m59 minutes ago San Diego, CA Karl Ravech was just on television saying the White Sox were willing to boycott their ST game over this Laroche situation. That's..something http://www.businessinsider.com/white-sox-p...-laroche-2016-3 "This is a team that was not going to go out and practice," Ravech said. "And furthermore, this was a team that ultimately said to the manager 'we're not going to go out and play in that game at 1:00.' You had a team that was willing to stand by the player and not participate in practice, and moreso, not participate in an exhibition game." The only thing that kept the players from boycotting was manager Robin Ventura who told that he needed them to play for him, that it was his job and it was their job. At that point, the players relented. Thanks for posting, if what Ravech is saying is true, then Ventura just had his best moment as a Sox manager

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) you are the voice of reasoning against my temper but that brings up another question, can the team rebound and continue on the magical good feelings that was coming from the team.... btw, maybe the word mutiny in my stance is a little too much, so substitute the word with a strike. Rumor is that they are going to win to spite Kenny Williams, as they have a poster of him and will rip off part of his clothing after each win.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) you make a point and a good one. for this thread, does the org have the right to chg the rules or policy of their club, outiside the idea of it is not against the union / cba rules and policy???? of course

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) the thing is, i voiced my opinions and this morning i made my final post on that matter. but i was reading this thread, why, b/c the posters and all of them are really intelligent and i love to read opinions. but this little snippet has me out rage. the gall of the players, who has it so easy, partly b/c the sox as an org believes in going out and making it easy and a great atmosphere. that is all JR's doing. but this little mutiny is a slap in the face against the org and us the fans. maybe i am over reacting. but i am pissed. They are supporting their teammate....not a shock. The fact it involves family makes it an even more hot topic. If LaRoche does confirm the retirement, I'm not sure what the next step is by the organization to settle things down.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) now i wish the media experts take this a rpt on it..... this is pure and simply ugly for players to overreact. the players are employees and the boss says this are the new rules of the day, and if it not against the union rules, the players have no ground to threaten and mutiny by refusing to play. The Sox have a few high-profile players that speak/act first before thinking it through (I'm sure every team does).

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) ohhh this is bullshiite, a team mutiny over a exec decision that really not even a in-game baseball decisions. but if this is true, how could the FO deal with this.... i guess RV did it right. but this is bullshiite from the players. i wonder who is the leading player making this decision. there is always a leader Sale, Frazier and Eaton are my picks to click. Remember the meeting went very long, so it could be where they didn't want to play because they didn't get to do their normal stretching routine, etc.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) And if they decided to fix it, it should have been in November or December when they started talking about spring training and how it would be run. I agree with that, but that's why the most simple explanation is one of the newer player(s) complained to KW about it.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) Exactly, Nightengale's column hit on that. Kids are around clubhouses once in awhile, or maybe home games. But to be around 100% of the time whereever his dad was, traveling with them on the plane and living in the hotel? Its ok to ask to have that dialed back. Especially if they feel Adam didn't live up to expectations last year due to potential lack of focus/preparation.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:52 PM) I would bet there is a guy Drake LaRoche's age or younger around the Sox clubhouse 162 games this season even if LaRoche sticks with retiring. If it was so burdensome, why was this addressed in March of 2016, 13 months after this has been going on? Easy...someone complained to KW