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I don't care if Sox end up losing, but hopefully we see some fight from this offense the rest of the way instead of giving up like they have of late.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:03 PM) You gotta be bleepin' me. How does Humber only give up 2 runs to Boston? Aren't the offenses of the Boston and Detroit both potent? That Red Sox lineup without Ortiz wasn't that dangerous.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:02 PM) For the love of God, give Phillip Humber his release. I think he gets one more start. I worry about KW overpaying for a starting pitcher now though, especially if he doesn't necessary fill a hole by using Quintana to acquire one.

If Yanks and Indians win today, we're still tied for the AL WC!

Boesch is awesome right now. Bad decision to pitch to him with the open base.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:00 PM) There is no way Humber is better than Axelrod, and I really cringe when Axelrod is on the mound for the Sox. I'm no fan of Axelrod, but outside of the ridiculous 3 day rest start, I reluctantly have to agree with you. Axelrod has done a very impressive job against the top teams in the league.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:58 PM) I sincerely doubt either would have signed long term. Nor should they have

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:57 PM) As someone who has largely been watching this season from a neutral baseball viewpoint, they can be really entertaining to watch. I know I get myself in trouble on here for saying how good the Tigers are, but I think in 10 days, they're going to be the best team in baseball if they upgrade SP and 2B. Austin Jackson turning into a stud has made this team so much more dangerous.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:56 PM) It still sad to think that we could have had Fielder or Adrian Gonzalez if we had packaged away Beckham/Daniel Hudson. Sox would have never signed them to their ridiculous contracts.

I'm surprised they didn't try to get Gavin back for this start, given his success vs the Tigers. Instead, you have him facing his nemesis tomorrow.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:54 PM) Of course, we said the same thing in 2003, 2004, 2006, 2010 and now this year. Anyone have our record since 2003 for Pre ASB and Post ASB?

QUOTE (Caesar @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:54 PM) I enjoy watching Sale pitch. I enjoy watching Viciedo develop. That's about it. Don't enjoy anything else at the moment. But, who does? I love watching Quintana pitch

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:54 PM) Miggy is pretty good. He's amazing. Their 3/4 hitters are ridiculous now.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:52 PM) What's the point of trading someone who has negligible trade value? Do you want to start Tyler Kuhn or Escobar there? Bring back Lillibridge and start him at 2B? How do you know Beckham has no trade value?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:51 PM) Did you change it to sort by ERA or something? By WAR, he is 26th on that list. Yeah, going by ERA. I've never used WAR for anything.

Something that has killed the team since the ASB is scoring late in games. Since the KC game right after the ASB, the Sox haven't scored a run from the 7th inning on.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:49 PM) Beckham is a bust. I think it's pretty safe to say that. Nothing but a glove. Utility player is all he is. Some team will think they can change him this offseason.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:46 PM) Almost all of them..... http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...0&sort=18,a And I did that w/ a minimum of 120 IP, which actually puts Humber at a disadvantage on that list because he is at 123, while a bunch of other guys on the list are at 170 innings+ Am I missing a page? I see Humber 4th on this list.

Youk getting destroyed by offspeed pitches of late.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:44 PM) Probably because he won't be able to stand by late August if Ventura keeps playing him at this pace. Then you play Flowers tomorrow against the LHP.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:43 PM) But that was the tipping point. There's no way we would be in the process of getting swept now had they won that game. Friday, yeah...but not Saturday and Sunday, and not with Sale. You have no way of knowing this. Even if they won Thursday's game, it was a showdown this weekend of a hot hitting team and a cold hitting team. Also, Porcello has pitched better vs the Sox this year than anyone else.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:42 PM) No, sorry, I edited it. There have been 25 worse than him dating back 1 calender year. And how many are still pitching?

Can someone trade for Liriano tonight so Sox don't have to face him tomorrow?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:38 PM) I don't think anyone would expect them to beat the Angels or Rangers in the Wild Card game. Let's just face it, the Tigers are better, especially with the injury to Danks and the rookies filling up the pen. We will forever be haunted by Escobar, Thornton and Reed from Thursday night's game...and Ventura's inexperience. Sorry, but the team was struggling before that choke job and the Tigers were playing their best baseball of the year.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:37 PM) They will be adding a starting pitcher before the deadline. Yep, sounds like they're aiming high.