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f***, Iguchi can't get the job done. That ball was awfully close to scoring a run.

He'll probably K here.

Wow, we got a pretty big call there, and Pods gets on. I'd rather see him try to steal 2nd, and then bunt him over.

f*** 'em up Pods!

This has become beyond irritating.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 04:25 AM) LOL. I wonder what would have happened if we went to the bullpen in the 6th. THIS is why you don't do that. Or maybe you don't just have your best reliever pitch to one batter, etc?

I'm sure happy Duque tried to start this inning if he's hurting. This is where leaving McCarthy off the roster might come back to haunt us. Vizcaino and Marte....yuck!

If Jenks isn't superman, then what is Hermanson? Was that really the time to test how his stuff is since he's been off for so long? If you're read what he said in the press, he doesn't seem very confident in his ability. He's said that his back doesn't feel any better, and that he's here if we need him. Not exactly a glowing endorsement of his health.

Wow, does Duque have some stones. I don't think Widger knew which pitch was coming there, and he made a great stab to catch it.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 04:10 AM) I liked it. Jenks wasn't warmed up yet and this would've been his 3rd consectuive game. A guy who throws that hard needs as much rest as possible. He'll come in the next inning for sure though. What are you resting him for?

QUOTE(letsgoarow @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 04:05 AM) jenks wasnt warm yet That's no excuse. That's Ozzie's fault then, as you could sense that situation coming that whole inning. If you want to bring him in the game, you can find a way to stall enough.

I have no clue why the Astros didn't have Palmeiro bat for Taveras. That's almost as bad as Hermanson over Jenks.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 04:04 AM) It's not like our closer is automatic, fathom. I'm blaming the walks myself Well, if we walked runs in, then I would blame them. If Jenks would have come in and given up a 3 run homer, I wouldn't have complained for one second.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 04:03 AM) This isn't 2nd guessing. Look at the posts leading up to those situations. Quite a few of us were saying how stupid the moves were. fathom u said you weren't going to complain at all this postseason. our pitchers have f***ed this up with walks. On to Game Four! Hopefull we'll be sharper. We had the chance to require our closer to get 4 outs. Instead, we chose a guy with a bad back, diminished stuff, and who hasn't pitched in almost a month. I'm sorry I'm not as content as you are.

Bring in Jenks! You need a strike out, and Duque's fastball has no life on it.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 04:01 AM) Everyone in the world knew that Rowand hd no chance vs Lidge. You know what? I thought Aaron might bleed a hit to rf. We're losing the game if we indeed lose it because our pitchers are f***ing up late and walking people. Yes, Cliff and Cotts walked someone, but we still had a chance to get out of the 8th with a lead. Ozzie basically played this game like it was a regular season game. You bring your f***ing closer in for that situation, and if you lose, you lose with your best.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 03:57 AM) haha, second guessing is really easy... isn't it. This isn't 2nd guessing. Look at the posts leading up to those situations. Quite a few of us were saying how stupid the moves were.

QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 03:59 AM) WTF is the Widge doing being in this game. If he was coming in the game, you should have had him hit for AJP against the tough lefty.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 03:57 AM) Fathom you amaze me sometimes. You never ever blame the talent. You wanted a pinch hitter for Aaron? You put your players in the best chance to succeed. Everyone in the world knew that Rowand hd no chance vs Lidge. As for the Hermanson debacle, that might be the most gutless move I've seen by a manager. Was Ozzie worried that Jenks gave up runs last game? Hermanson has nothing left...it's been obvious for a few months. Jenks made Lane look foolish in the first two games with FASTBALLS! Thus, we bring in someone who just throws junk.

QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 03:56 AM) Aaron has been brutal Has been? More like he is.

Apparently we're the only ones that know Rowand sucks beyond belief against the righty slider. Great turn of events Ozzie!!

Two potentially critical managerial errors made by Ozzie.

I was obviously upset with bringing in Hermanson over Jenks, but I want a civil conversation with my fellow Sox fans to discuss what they think about the critical pitching move.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 03:50 AM) Seems like we've only had a few really good pitches to hit of late. I guess not every pitcher is coming off of 25 days rest?

Timo should ph for Rowand.