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QUOTE(letsgoarow @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:55 AM) no its the fact that everyone thinks we are done. We are not done we have the best record in the a.l. for a reason, and we have the same team we have had all year. things will change I'm not saying you're wrong....but that's the same f***ing attitude that I think our management has....and it's the same attitude that I feel made us complacent. I'm so sick and f***ing tired of saying the cliche "taking your foot off of the accelerator", but that's what I feel we did way too early.

QUOTE(letsgoarow @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:51 AM) this site has never been so pititful.... its depressing And the offense has never been so pathetic. The thing is, some of the most optimistic posters I've ever seen are pissed off at this team right now. I don't know how someone can be happy with a lineup full of guys like Crede, Dye, Uribe, and Timo when they're all struggling.

QUOTE(letsgoarow @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:49 AM) against the red sox, yankees, and twins.... we get back pods very soon.. The Indians are better than the Twins this season, and I think they're better than the Yankees. The Indians have a sensational offense now, very solid starting pitching, and probably the most underrated bullpen in baseball.

Haven't we been hearing 8 games is a lot...9 games is a lot...10 games is a lot? The thing is, there's no end in sight to this offensive slump. After Cy Mays tomorrow, we get Silva and King Felix. Not exactly promising for our offense. I'm sure KW will provide help for this team.....now! At least I can count on Timo hitting in place of Iguchi.

QUOTE(letsgoarow @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:47 AM) 7 games is a lot.... Not when your team is struggling to score a single run....and the Indians offense is absolutely peaking.

QUOTE(letsgoarow @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:45 AM) We are fine. We have the best pitching staff in the majors, the second best record in the majors, the most home games left in the majors, and a very easy schedule the rest of the WAY...... GO SOX EVERYONE SMILE....... I'd be a lot happier if we still had a double digit lead.

QUOTE(RX Bandits @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:00 AM) 7 game lead? Are you kidding me? I can't even imagine you dolts with a 2 or 3 game lead. RELAX! The pitching has been awesome and that is was wins playoff games. You would think us Sox fans would be used to a little bump in the road after all the bad years since 2000 but jesus were as uptight as ever. We'll start the ass kissing when we clinch Coming out of the gates firing? Well, some of us have been worried about this collapse for a while. Hey, pitching is great to have....but if you can't score a single run, you're not going to win.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:57 AM) I'm in, but you have to admit that there's some cosmic irony if Dmitri Young's prediction turns out to be correct. Hell, lets get D. Young. He'd be our 2nd best hitter.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:57 AM) God i hope that doesn't happen, but it seems to me that ozzie has to play his "boyfriend" at least 4 times a week now. 99 pct chance he's leading off tomorrow. It's not even that I'm upset he's leading off. Rather, Timo being the LEADOFF hitter represents everything that has gone wrong in the month of August with the White Sox.

Note to offense: In order to win a game, you need to score a run.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:46 AM) But this year he is also the luckiest too. But i would say he isn't that good at managing. My dream manager would be Steve Stone, that guy is a freakin' genius. He knows a lot about the game and when to do certain things in a game. He's our next GM, not manager.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:42 AM) Have I missed Ozzie taking the bats out of our guys' hands and swinging wildly at horrible pitches for them? - Ozzie consistently leaves our starting pitcher way too long. Is it a coincidence that Buehrle, Garcia (before tonight), and Garland have struggled in the 2nd half of the season? - Ozzie's love for Timo is sickening! To take the bat out of Iguchi's hands for Timo in the 9th was f***ing pathetic. How many times has Iguchi come through in situations like that leading off an inning late in the game? Also, Timo leading off games is just a perfect example of the complacency within the organization. - Ozzie's lack of hit-and-run on a team that's living or dying with the homer. - Ozzie's inability and lack of trying new lineups in order to provide a spark.

I don't know if this will help some of the people who are thinking of jumping off the ledge, but I've been saying this for a while: If the 2005 Sox don't make the playoffs, then they didn't deserve to make it. They had absolute control of their destiny to make the playoffs, and if they don't, there's no one to blame but the WHOLE organization. Not umpires, announcers, fans on a message board, or attendance figures.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:41 AM) Ha, the Royals? There's no way. And I prefer OMIT TIMO!!! The Royals were once one of the best franchises in baseball. Also, I bet you two seasons ago, they thought they were primed for a great stretch.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:40 AM) While I still believe the White Sox will win the division, I have lost alot of hope in this teams offense, in Ozzie Guillen as a manager, and in Kenny Williams as a general manager. I never liked Ozzie's in-game managing ability...and this recent stretch has only proven to me that he has no clue what he's doing on the bench.

QUOTE(Purdue129 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:36 AM) Just got back from the dome. There were a decent amount of Sox fans there. We were sitting 2 rows behind the Sox bullpen. Man Soo was super chatty all game, like usual. Marte tossed me the ball he was warming up with in the 9th, which was the highlight of the night. When Marte tossed you the ball, was it high and outside?

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:34 AM) I'm diving head first......into the ship's pool. I'll always be in with this team and support them. Sure I'll say some negative things, but I'll always have a smile with a win, and I'll always have a knife in my heart with a loss. No matter what, the White Sox are apart of my life and they will always be. Anyone who's giving up on rooting for the Sox now is a f***ing pussy. First, baseball is one of most important things in my life.......but I can't do anything to change the results, so you have to learn how to deal with it. If you're going to give up when you're 7 games up in the division, I can't imagine what your life must be like about 9 out of 10 baseball seasons. Enjoy the rest of this season, because there's no guarantee we don't turn into the Royals in the future. Now....f*** TIMO!

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:17 AM) Once we get into the playoffs, anything can happen. I don't care if we barely squeak in... Will I get nervous as hell if it gets down to 5 or 4 games? Hell yeah. I just don't see it. I cannot fathom this type of colossal collapse. We were playing too well early on to not be a playoff team this year, and I believe that we can reach that level of play and make the playoffs. Once there, anything can happen. I still believe. The thing is, the Indians have finally woken up this season. Their offense was totally underachieving this season. However, guys like Martinez and Blake have picked their games up. They scare me a lot more than the Twins do. And I'm not so sure that this Sox team has enough talent to hold off a fast charging talented team like the Indians. Our offense just sucks....you can't win if you don't score.

I can't wait until next week when the Rangers are playing home run derby against our starters, and Ozzie is trying to play smallball with Timo.

QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:13 AM) We just got to hold on for dear life until Pods comes back. Can Pods play the left side of the infield?

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:11 AM) No hope needed. We are 7 games up, not down. Time will run out for the indians no matter how hot they may seem. I actually appreciate the optimism at a time like this. As a Sox fan though, isn't it a little sickening that seemingly every night, we say the same thing, but with a lower number?

QUOTE(soxman352000 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:10 AM) This is BS I can't believe they keep winning like this If you haven't seen the non-balk call.....DONT! It will just piss you off.

I can't wait to see Timo leading off!

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:08 AM) Look at the timeline. The decline in offense corresponds with Podsednik's injury. For anyone who says it started a few games before he went on the DL, wasn't his DL stint retroactive? The offense was fading fast well before Pods went on the DL. Also, don't get your hopes up for a speed player coming back strong after a groin injury.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:06 AM) Looks like an SOS to Rafael Furcal in the off-season, unless a better solution via a trade can be found for 3rd base. I'm also of the opinion Everett needs to pick it up, even though August has been the 2nd best month this season for him. Furcal's a Cubs player if the Braves don't resign him.