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The heavy rumor is Mitch Stetter, relief pitcher in the minors...nothing special.

3 yrs, 21 million isn't even close to what Clement is going to get. I predict he'll get a 4 yr, 40 mil deal by the time he's signed.

The PTBNL is likely Mitch Stetter, a LHP reliever who's 24 yrs old and not exactly a top prospect.

I actually think that KW is so set on flying under the radar that that was the reason he said the June comment. There's no way that Ozzie won't pressure him to get another starting pitcher.

Don't forget that Stetter, 24, is very old for that level.

The rumor is that the PTBNL is Mitch Stetter, a 23 yr old lefty reliever who someone said was about the 42nd best propsect on Milwaukee. Also, if KW doesnt use the money saved in this deal to improve the team, I will not attend a single Sox game this year. I know people could care less what I do, but there's no way I will financially support a team that would do business like this.

I don't believe that for one second. That's basically a mixture of all the deals that have been discussed. If we did that move, we'd have even more holes...including obtaining a starting pitcher with huge injury problems.

I read on baseball primer that the ptbnl might be Mitch Stetter, a reliever who had a 1.70 era in their minors. Does anyone know anything about him or if this is true?

I saw enough "fall back" plans last year in the 5th spot to know that KW needs to sign a legit starting pitcher, and not to rely on any falls backs.

I don't think Podsednik will strikeout as much on the Sox as he did with the Brewers. The Brewers approach was swing, swing, swing...and that's why they K'd so much. Whenever I watched Pod face the Cubs, he always seemed like a tough out. In no way is he a Willie Harris type slap hitter. He has decent power and is a great bunter.

Please no Hermanson as the 5th starter! I'm afraid of the fallout among Sox fans if JR and KW pocket the money that was gained by this transaction.

I watched Vizcaino pitch a ton of games against the Cubs last year. He has a solid fastball and a dynamite slider/splitter, but he struggles with leaving pitches over the plate to be hit a far way. However, he's a very solid reliever who I will be confident in when he comes in. The question I have now is why do we need Cliff P. in the pen? I hope we're not planning on Hermanson going into the starting rotation.

Under no circumstance should KW trade Konerko now. Besides for being our most reliable offensive threat, it would be a massive public relations blow to lose Maggs, Carlos, and PK in one offseason. Also, can we start a new thread that lists the latest Sox rumors in regards to the completion of the trade, and rumors about any new moves?

The way I think about it is that Podsednik had a poor year last year, but so did everyone else on the Brewers. The entire team had a terrible approach, and facing power pitchers like guys from Cubs and Astros in 20 pct of your game won't help out your stats much. If this deal was Pierre instead of Podsednik, people would be thrilled. Yes, Pierre is better than Podsednik, but two years ago, Scott Pod was better. If we can get a solid player to be named later, and then sign a pitcher with the money, I will be a huge fan of this trade. No offense to Carlos, but we weren't going anywhere with who we had before this trade.

I don't know, but since when did we win anything with Carlos Lee as the focal point of the offense? I would say that in the last 24 hours, Carlos has gone from an above average outfielder into the next Barry Bonds.

I'm telling you, this deal could be great for the Sox. If we can turn Carlos Lee into Podsenik, Ginter, Vizcaino, and a solid starter, that's a great deal.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought "f*** you Harry" when he switched to Cubs talk so quick. He did the same thing last week when he said how bad Dye and Dustin were, but said how great the Blanco signing was.

Let's wait to judge this trade until we see if KW uses the money to sign a starting pitcher also. Plus, if we get Ginter, he'd make a great platoon player against lhp at 2nd base.

I totally agree, the offense has been extremely inconsistent. But one of the main reasons for that was our reliance on the long ball. If you add someone like Podsednik to your team, you put yourself in a better position to manufacture runs. Also, Podsednik is a very good bunter, which fits well with Ozzie's system. Maybe one of the reasons I'm in favor of this trade is that, unlike some on this board, realize that we're not going to get a marquee pitcher like Ben Sheets, etc., in a trade for Konerko or Lee, and if we can turn Carlos Lee into Pod, Vizcaino, minor leaguer, and a pitcher like Odalis or Lowe, I think it's a great tradeoff.

If this trade results in freed up money to obtain a solid starting pitcher, then honestly, I'm all for it. Offense has not been the reason for the Sox demise over the last few years, the lack of depth in the starting rotation has been. Not only that, but we would be bolstering our relief core also. Personally, if we got Pod, Ginter, and Vizcaino for Lee and a low level minor leaguer, I would be pretty content.

All I know is that Hawk compliments A.J. every time he gets a chance. He always says how A.J. calls a great game, and he was one of the main reasons that the Sox always lost to the Twins. I would love to have A.J. on this team instead of Ben Davis. An A.J./Burke combination would be a massive improvement over anything this team has had in a long time.

Just say no KW! Nakamura would not be an upgrade all around over KW, and would probably cost us a few million.

With the signing of Matheny imminent by the Giants, old Sox enemy A.J. Pierzynski will likely become a free agent. Personally, I would not mind A.J. on the sox, as he would great improve our catching position, and add a lefty hitter to our lineup. I know we've had issues with him in the past, but I thought it was mostly Maggs and Valentin that didn't get along with him. A question: what other teams need a catcher? It seems like almost every other team has a catcher already to start.

Not exactly impressive numbers in what is a hitters league. Personally, 3b is not a big need for me right now. We should be concentrating on finding a catcher, righty utility player, and of course, another starting pitcher.

I honestly wouldnt be shocked to see the Cubs try and work out a trade of Sosa for Kevin Brown, and then would make Brown their closer. Just a pure guess though on my part, no source.