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"Firm, serious offer" makes no indication that the offer was actually competitive. I can firmly and seriously offer someone 40% of asking price.

If you aren't looking to replace your worst position player with an absolute steal (3 for $33M!) I don't know what you're doing.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 24, 2016 -> 12:43 AM) $35 million + the pick is a hefty price to me, especially for a team like the Sox that always seem to be strapped for cash. If they can't afford a legit good player at a steal of a contract like the one Fowler just took, they are in far worse condition than they've let on. More and more signs that they were making "we tried" offers to OF options instead of seriously pursuing them.

Orioles are stealing Fowler for 3 years, approximately $35 million. Makes me wonder how hard the Sox were actually trying to upgrade OF in the first place.

QUOTE (CB2.0 @ Jan 23, 2016 -> 06:27 AM) The A's did because of Cespedes...maybe. The Dodgers because of Puig? No. Come on, man. He had the second highest OPS on the team in 2013 and highest on the team in 2014.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 06:33 PM) Call me crazy but I'm not ready to give up on Avi yet. Cespedes is very inconsistent on offense and may become complacent with a big contract. I would not be surprised at all to see Avi put up numbers similar or better than Cespedes did in 2013 or 2014. Obviously there are still big differences between their defense and base running abilities but if Avi can improve even marginally in both I think he has a shot to be a useful player this year. Avi was historically terrible last year and the historical evidence shows very long odds that he turns into a productive player. http://www.thecatbirdseatblog.com/blog/201...fe8ddp13er5rjrq

He's not saying Avi is the second best trade chip, he just had him second in the list. It's not a ranking.

QUOTE (soxfan85 @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 05:34 AM) What ever happened to Jose Abreu trying to "broker" a deal between the White Sox & Cespedes per Phil Rogers?... Based on that latest article, it sounds like the Sox really haven't been involved very much at all.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 12:11 AM) I would disagree. Just because he is the best current choice doesn't mean he is the best choice later in the off season or next year, maybe the team that signs him trades someone for next to nothing. Just because he is the hot topic doesn't mean he is the best choice. The FA class is extremely weak next year and they really don't have the resources to land a good OF through trade, so if they don't upgrade at RF this offseason, it'll likely be an offensive blackhole in 2017 too.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 09:49 PM) @scottmerkin Apparently when the White Sox explore something, they don't mess around. What does this mean? Merkin heard about the Sox exploring bringing Albers back and within 20 minutes of that tweet he was signed.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:01 PM) This is the dilemma, if you don't sign Cespedes you can't justify giving up a draft pick for Fowler. Not with the state of our farm system and the reality we're seeing here, which is we're not going to land these big FA with some self imposed limit on contract years. To get a player like Cespedes, we'd either have to draft him or trade for him. Maybe internally they prefer Fowler to Cespedes because he'd be a cheaper sign, but also because that's one less high price draft pick to pay for.

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #WhiteSox would not go 4 years on Gordon, as @BNightengale said. Will they adjust on Cespedes? Gordon 32 this season, Cespedes 30. So maybe it wasn't posturing after all.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 06:53 AM) So I guess the Sox forfeit another pick in the draft? That kind of sucks, but not the end of the world. This is absolutely the right time to stack that though. The first round pick is protected, meaning the forfeit the second and 3rd round this time around, instead of losing a possible 1st or a second with a big FA signing next year.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 07:51 PM) So you are saying you dont want a player, for no reason at all? Rated Fastest Baserunner in the Texas Rangers system after the 2009 seasonRated Best Defensive Infielder in the Texas Rangers system after the 2009 seasonRated Best Infield Arm in the Texas Rangers system after the 2009 seasonRated Best Infield Arm in the Texas Rangers system after the 2010 seasonRated Fastest Baserunner in the Texas Rangers system after the 2010 seasonRated Fastest Baserunner in the Texas Rangers system after the 2011 seasonRated Best Infield Arm in the Texas Rangers system after the 2011 seasonRated Fastest Baserunner in the Texas Rangers system after the 2012 seasonRated Best Infield Arm in the Texas Rangers system after the 2012 season Career OPS .657

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 07:45 PM) Doesn't sound very promising if it's only PTBNL - unless it's a guy on the 40 man. It's almost assuredly Leury Garcia, a weak hitting utility player with a bit of speed and not much else.