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QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 08:06 PM) Not to start over Flowers, but to be the back-up catcher. I doubt the AAA guys in Phegley and Gimenez are going to be trusted much the rest of the way. Probably just didn't want to have to carry three catchers for any amount of time, especially for as little as that player will play. Or this is all untrue.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 08:03 PM) If Kenny knew this was a possibility a few weeks ago, I'm surprised he didn't try to get another catcher on waivers. Sox better hope Flowers' wife isn't having more kids the next month. Other than Mauer, were there many clear upgrades to be had over Flowers? Might as well see what we have in Flowers at this point.

Most stadium workers would have been at work when this came out

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 05:37 PM) But what's funny is that nobody cares as much about guys that get busted in the NFL. They sit out 4 games, come back, and it's almost like it never happened. In MLB, anything you will ever do in your career is forever scarred. I've noticed this too. I can't figure it out because it makes just as much sense to go crazy over it in the media. I wonder if that would change if a Tom Brady-esque figure got caught.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 05:31 PM) I feel like at least one of the beat writers would pick up on this already. Again...not if they ever want to come back to our dugout.

I'm conflicted about PEDs, honestly. They ARE against the rules, sure. We don't look so harshly upon other things that are against the rules in baseball though. I see no moral problem with steroid use beyond the fact that several institutions say you shouldn't have them (US Gov't, MLB, etc). Despite the aforementioned, this potential news has hit me very hard and I can't really explain why. I'm sure it'll feel even worse if comes true.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 04:26 PM) Allen Thomas Our Allen Thomas was interviewed

FWIW, there had been talk earlier in the season about AJ having really put effort into a strength and conditioning program for the first time as a player, particularly in the offseason. Our S&C coach was interviewed as well. This was offered as an explanation for his resurgence. Of course, this goes both ways. I'd get more interested in lifting weights, etc. if I was doing a steroid run too. Just like people saying there are whispers. Of course there are when something crazy happens like this. There would be whispers if he were innocent.

Just watched the replay of Rios' salami. It was like an orgasm of Hawkisms

I'm late to the thread, so... Looks like Rios had some of AJ's juice Looks like Peavy had some of AJ's juice Looks like Myers had some of AJ's juice Looks like Gordon had some of AJ's juice Looks like Wise had some of AJ's juice Looks like PK had some of AJ's juice

Wise in for ADA today. Weird

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 12:27 PM) Does anyone think Carlton Fisk did PEDs? He started playing better in his middle 30s. I was anti PED, but I'm starting to think if a player can get them legally, they should let everyone do them. Someone is always going to get away with it. Most things players do is performance enhancing, if done legally, what's the difference between a drug and a workout or diet? If you have a doctor's note, some PEDs can be taken right now. That said, if there is truth to this rumor, I'd turn on AJ. I agree. It should at least be looked into whether it would just be better to make a standard, safe, legal protocol for use. The public has been so propagandized against steroids that I don't know if any politician would allow the legalization or limited legalization of steroids, though.

Also, I'll be intrigued by the presence (or non-presence) of Soxtalk's "insiders" ITT

QUOTE (Elgin Slim @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 12:25 PM) Couldn't people get sued for defamation for posting crap on the internet that isn't true? Yes, but not us since we are discussing what that potential defamer said.

It would really suck the fun out of this season and any potential major victories (like a playoff run) if we feel like we didn't get here legitimately.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 12:00 PM) Honestly, I do. They have a lot to lose if it ends up being false. I agree with you. Not to mention if someone reported it early, it would likely ruin their relationship with the White Sox and/or MLB permanently (see Mark Gonzalez)

I have a feeling this became a story unintentionally (KW lacking the intention). KW is obviously upset about the result and of course should assert, as the GM, that he is not okay with losing in that manner or in series of that significance. I think the not bunting at MC is a part of what frustrated KW, but he isn't silly enough to know that we didn't lose the series due to just a lack of bunts. That was just another piece in the puzzle like poor situational hitting, poor pitch calling at times, brain lapses like Wise dogging it when Cabrera tagged to third, etc.

Colbert on Julian Castro, Joaquin Castro - "Call me racist, but I can't even tell these Hispanics apart"

I would vote Soxbadger, but I'm a diehard SoxIllini supporter

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 09:11 AM) Michele Obama's speech was unbelievably bad. Admit it I haven't seen it, but my assessment of the vaunted Julian Castro speech is that it didn't live up to the praise it received immediately afterwards. I like his story and I like the philosophical main point, but I was no big fan of the delivery. I was rather upset I spent the time to go watch it after the fact...which makes me unsure whether I'll check out Michelle's speech.

He has a great story, but he really needed to get away from the Latino-related discussion. The general idea of opportunity and investing in social mobility is great, but he kept drawing parallels to Latino immigrants and their issues. That isn't how you win people over, especially when you yourself are Latino. I certainly agree with his sentiments, but when you're trying to win an election you need your keynote speaker to quit distracting from his main point. Too many voters are going to forget the idea that we want to give everyone a chance to succeed, etc. because they keep going back to their own thoughts on immigration. Even folks that are on the more liberal end of the spectrum on immigration aren't generally eager to hear the issue being pushed so near the forefront of the Democratic agenda, though in reality it probably wasn't meant to be.

My main first impression from Castro's speech is that his smile creeps me out.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 11:03 AM) Romney's plan might actually offer some short-term love. Unpaid for dramatic tax cuts and huge spending on defense will provide a boost to the economy. Of course, it would be atrocious for the deficit, but that's never been a concern now has it? GWB 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 09:33 PM) I want Biden without a teleprompter. Thats when the magic happens. yes yes yes that's the main thing that excites me about the prospect of Biden as President QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 10:03 PM) God damn can anyone stop making love to the "Greatest Generation"? Sorry my generation didnt let Hitler come to power so I could overcome great evil. lol QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 10:09 PM) No white commentators on BET. Im calling the race card. And how controversial would WET be. haha lol...how much have you had to drink? did you mix it with cocaine? QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) Reines Preibus clearly did before speaking at the RNC convention lol QUOTE (Reddy @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 10:30 PM) um. what? his parents are gay. he's an eagle scout. he's speaking about his STORY. it's all true... there's nothing to fact check. just curious, why is being an eagle scout proof of someone's goodness?

LETS WIN THIS THING

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 09:20 PM) His ERA was near 6 coming into this game. His ERA is now 6.50. You sure like mediocre players, don't you? No, I just don't see the reason to DFA him. Someone has to pitch in games like this and more often than not he will not give up 10 runs or whatever the number was today. At the end of the season, you can ask him how he likes the weather in Charlotte.