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  1. 4 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

    All 3 of those were pretty great trades. You have to give Hahn his due for them. But other than those 3 has he even had one you would call a good trade? Maybe Colome depending how you look at it. It’s another thing that scares me about their supposedly using trades to finish off the team. He’s pretty much been horrible at it  most of the time. Edit, Lynn was a good trade.

    No I think Hahn is a rubbish GM. I think the unfortunate thing for us compared to other fandoms is when we say “Sox never trade guys at their peak” we are covering ourselves against a 23 year history of the same regime instead of “x GM never trades guys at their peak”.

    But yeah my main thing is the only actual helpful item Sox could do this year is fire Hahn.

  2. LMAO


    A South Side shakeup
    White Sox get: 2B Gleyber Torres, 3B Josh Donaldson, $10.8 million
    Yankees get: 3B Yoán Moncada, RHP Jimmy Lambert

    You want to get nuts? Let’s get nuts.

    With Anthony Volpe and Oswald Peraza in the Yankees’ near or immediate middle-infield picture, Torres is a good candidate to get moved this winter. And a White Sox team for which second base has been a problematic position for more than a decade is an obvious fit. Perhaps there’s a more direct swap to be had here in which the Sox send prospects and/or bullpen help to the Yanks.

    But what fun is that? We’re here to think big, and this crazy proposal might help both sides.

    The Sox get an obvious improvement and perhaps additional upside at second base in Torres. They move Moncada, who has had an up-and-down career to date. And while replacing him with Donaldson erases a lot of upside, it also frees the Sox of the $24.8 million owed to Moncada in 2024 (plus a $5 million buyout in 2025) in exchange for an $8 million buyout of Donaldson’s '24 deal. That’s some added long-term financial flexibility for a Chicago team in need of it. At minimum, Donaldson is still capable of giving them good defense at the hot corner.

    Of course, pairing Donaldson with Tim Anderson would be, um, more than a little awkward (hey, we promised you this was nuts). But it wouldn’t be the first time we’ve seen players with a past forced to smooth things over after an acquisition.

    Torres, meanwhile, comes with two years of contractual control and took well to the shift to second base while swatting 24 homers and 28 doubles with a .761 OPS. If that’s his floor, it’s a big upgrade for the South Siders. And if he can reach the upside that made him the centerpiece of the Cubs-Yankees Aroldis Chapman trade in 2016, that’s an even bigger plus. Factoring in Torres’ arbitration cost, the Sox take on roughly $3 million in '23 payroll in this swap.

    What do the Yankees get? For one, a bullpen piece in Lambert, who is under control through 2027 and had strong results in high-leverage spots after a shift to the 'pen last year (2.90 ERA in 40 relief appearances). Even in sending half of Donaldson’s salary obligation to the Sox, New York shaves about $3 million off its '23 payroll. The Yanks get improved upside at third base in Moncada, who struggled (and was injured) in '22 but at 27 years old is a safer bet to return to above-average offensive production at this stage than Donaldson. Moncada also balances the Yankees’ lineup as a switch-hitter. The Yankees are taking on the $24.8 million owed to Moncada in '24 and losing the $8 million buyout owed to Donaldson for that season.

    Hey, what do you know? Maybe Torres could wind up playing for a Chicago team, after all!

  3. It is funny watching how the padres and Phillies come off a very disappointing season and both decided to keep spending to overcome, knowing regression would likely be positive.

    They then made NLCS and more.

    But since JR despises both owners for paying players what they believe they are worth he will instead cut payroll to achieve his number one goal:  not giving labor too much wealth.

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  4. 24 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

    Mediocre player. Peeked in 2019. White Sox seem attracted to players who have peeked, and we are back to the 2009-2017 model of hoping to get numbers out of guys that are probably not possible. Kepler isn’t projected to hit, so I’m sure the White Sox history of mediocre coaching will solve that. Mediocre, players, mediocre coaches, mediocre front office. Max Kepler is a move that would show why they Sox are usually mired in mediocrity.

    Remember when we used to target underrated, blocked players in other orgs on the way up rather than players on their way down 

  5. If he's a groundball specialist, him giving up a lot of hits in AFL isn't as interesting as if the hits are ground balls. 

    Not sure any of us figured Tanner Banks would see time this year or when Aaron Bummer jumped up, hence a pop-up.

    I wouldn't be surprised considering sox love sinker ballers in their bullpen under hahn if a guy that throws strikes and has a power sinker makes it

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  6. from an espn guesstimates article:

    Gonzalez: Cody Bellinger, Yankees, one year, $22 million. If Bellinger is only going to accept a one-year deal -- and that's the plan, his agent, Scott Boras, told The Athletic -- then a nice bidding war is going to play out, and a team might have to kick in a lucrative 2024 player option as a sweetener. Bellinger needs to go to a team that possesses the resources to give him the best chance to recapture who he was. A short porch in right field helps, too.


  7. 25 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

    Caleb Freeman and Luke Schilling also have the potential to pop up.  They both were injured most of last year.  I personally think that Kohl Simas ends up in the pen, and there's a good chance Kelley ends up there as well.  The team's pitching depth is really bad, so almost anyone who gets off to a good start has a chance of being pressed into bullpen service.

    It's possible with Simas but I think he should continue trying out as a starter. But he's at that velo range where if he instead goes to 96 mph he could whittle down his arsenal and might be really effective.

  8. I saw this a few weeks ago. We desperately need a pop-up bullpen guy. I'd say Declan Cronin may be there:

    Theo Denlinger probably showed the best swing and miss stuff in bham but is older so maybe is just part that. 49ks in 38 IP. Sammy Peralta too. Maybe Bilous makes the switch to BP and his stuff plays up enough for his horrendous control.

    In Charlotte, I have for years hoped that Andrew Perez could put it together. He looks the part. His results are horrible. Maybe we get some pitching dust sprinkled over him this offseason.

  9. 55 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

    Adam Frazier makes a lot of sense as a 2B and LF.  Could use him in a versatile role and has a LH bat and would come cheaper due to his down year

    This franchise will be so much better off seeing if sosa/romy can fill this role. And even batting right handed, I bet they can come close to Frazier's 84 wRC+ last year in the AL.

    Plus Romy/Sosa come with some much better power possibilities which this team desperately needs.

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  10. 14 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

    Not all are available? All we do off season is suggest trades and signing guys who aren't available. I would think that minor league guys and DFA candidates are a lot more attainable than Bellinger given the new restraints .

    I'm not thinking playoffs I'm thinking younger. Aren't you sick of watching guys who were all supposed to be better than ABreu by now get hurt and under perform all the time ? Now you want another one who will cost more than he's actually worth because he was once an MVP ?  We had an MVP and he was still the best player on the team and we aren't keeping him.

    I have no idea what signing Bellinger actually accomplishes.

    When a guy has been so bad with a top organization known for finding guys and making them better, couldn't make Bellinger any better and the organization you want to sign him is known for not developing players and getting all kinds of injuries to their young core players so often that most of them have never had a good full season, that's bad money after bad.

    Plus you want to get into some kind of bidding war for him ?  Where's the money coming from to make the pitching staff better ? We can point out flaws in every scenario for this year based on money supposedly available and cost to sign or trade guys.

    Again I don't see anything controversial about wanting young guys with good skills. Every player on the Sox has plenty of flaws too but what most of them don't have are defensive skills ,speed, power ,small contracts and 6 years of eligibility.

    I'm saying one is a free agent, so it may be the case that a James Outman is more attainable than the salary Bellinger gets, it's no sure thing, and may come at the cost of a Major League asset we'd need to offset or a strong minor league package. The dodgers outfield isn't particularly crowded

    While it's true the dodgers are "giving" up on Bellinger, the context is that his MVP season made his price tag in arbitration quite high while he is still working through issues, and the Dodgers are in a position with their slaaries where they don't need to take the risk on a bounce back.

    There's nothing wrong with taking a chance on younger guys just Bellinger is pretty young and has a lot of the qualities you've mentioned. He may have a heavy market right now, or we may just be hearing Boras' b.s.

  11. 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

    I think they should try something new like getting a player that is actually good (Bryan Reynolds) instead of a player that is bad (Cody Bellinger) that they hope will be good but will likely remain bad. 

    Well one is a free agent and the other will be wanted by more than one team and you've called this farm trash.

    I think we should get Julio Rodriguez. Guy seems really good. Way better than Bellinger.

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