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QUOTE(peanut33tillman @ Jun 18, 2005 -> 11:50 AM) hes got another 1 or 2 in the tank sure but 5 years? he's already having trouble staying healthy with his short stint back with the sox 5 years is quite the strecth dont u think? Not too old for a DH. You seriously don't think he can't DH for 5 more years?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 18, 2005 -> 11:34 AM) Not so sure I like Buehrle admitting that he left pine tar on his hands when he was pitching in NL home games. I don't see a reason for someone to admit that they did something illegal the day after someone got suspended 10 games for doing the same. I didnt care too much for ozzies comments at the end of the article :headshake

By Dave van Dyck. Special to the Tribune. Tribune staff reporter Paul Sullivan contributed June 18, 2005 As if next weekend's Cubs-White Sox interleague series needed any added "substance," Mark Buehrle's commenting that a North Side pitcher "very well" may be cheating has become a "slippery" subject. And though the Cubs may think Buehrle is "all wet," one of them has confessed to a moist misdeed, although it was not the one Buerhle was presumed to have fingered, Greg Maddux. It should be noted Ryan Dempster did not have his fingers in his mouth but did have his tongue inserted in his cheek while, ahem, coming clean. "Basically I use snot if I have it," Dempster said. "Mark, you caught me. I'm glad, with your busy schedule, you had nothing else to do but imply I was using spit on the ball." Actually, Buerhle was busy Friday, pitching the White Sox to a 6-0 victory over the Dodgers at U.S. Cellular Field, but his off-day remarks on WSCR-AM sure started a slimy saga, although he said it wasn't "that big a deal." "He must get bored in-between the four days off," Dempster said before the Cubs played the Yankees in New York. "As a [former] starter, I can appreciate that. "Doing the relieving thing, I don't have enough time to think of things like that. Although I know that one of the White Sox players, I heard, is using some sort of atomic bomb in his jockstrap." The messy matter began when the Angels' Brendan Donnelly was accused of doctoring the baseball against Washington after the White Sox complained he was licking his fingers on the mound. Donnelly was suspended for 10 days Friday for using pine tar. Buehrle said many pitchers lick their fingers off the mound, which is legal, but that they may not wipe it off completely. Like who? "I can't get myself in trouble because he's on the North Side," Buehrle said Thursday on WSCR. "I don't know personally, but I'm just saying from years of experience that he has had success that he very well may be using something." Maddux, who could start next Saturday against the Sox, often walks around the mound taking big licks of his fingers. "I don't know where Maddux's name was brought up," Buehrle said after Friday night's game. "I don't want him coming back to me saying I'm a bad guy [and] talking behind his back. I don't even know the guy. "I said I don't know personally. You hear rumors around the league [about] guys cheating. There are guys on every team that cheat. Take it and run whichever way you want to go, but I didn't think it was a big deal." Buehrle admitted he "cheated," perhaps leaving pine tar on his hands after batting in interleague games. "Hitters get to use pine tar, so why can't pitchers?" he asked. "I know it's illegal, but it's a good argument." Can Buehrle now expect some retaliation, like having teams ask umpires to check him? "If they want, umpires can come out and check guys after every inning, I'll be more than happy to drop my drawers and they can check whatever they want to check on me," he said. "I don't care." Naturally, Sox manager Ozzie Guillen helped fan the fire Friday by saying if his pitchers win games by cheating, "I'll help them cheat. As long as they win games, I hope they cheat." Was Guillen serious? You never know with him. But he sure wasn't being flip. "Everybody cheats," he said. "If you don't get caught, you're a smart player or pitcher. If you get caught, you're cheating. It has been part of the game for a long time. . . . "If you're doing whatever you're not supposed to do and you don't get caught, keep doing it." Dempster= Tool

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2005 -> 10:43 AM) Lets just say Rangers 14 year old sister had a better arm

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2005 -> 10:30 AM) Yeah we ended up in a funny spot today, basically in the stadium club parking lot. Sorry to anyone else who tried to look for us. But it was nice to meet you and your sister Ranger, and it was a great time to see everyone and tip back a few. thanks for letting me in your secrets how to post over 30k It was a blast ! You guys are even nicer in person! I think my lil sis might join the board just cause of you guys. ( she thought you all were hilarious)

They showed him on the jumbotron yesterday. When he noticed he was on he flipped on a sox hat and he got a huge roar! Vince!

Frank still has some pop in his bat. In all reality, I think he could probably still play another 5 years. Frank!!

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 18, 2005 -> 10:14 AM) I won't be here today, but remember, if the 3b poll comes up, get Macias in. we are on it ! lol

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Jun 18, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) But what about Jose Macis? Macias will be in

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 18, 2005 -> 12:59 AM) God damn work and traffic on the Ike f***ed everything up. I got to the park at 6:50. I missed the tailgate. You missed a hell of a time. Steff, Jason, Alex, and mike were a riot! Great to talk sox baseball with awesome people and fans!!

ScottPodRulez22 cloudyguy09 buehrle>wood Thank you all for this unbelievable job tonight!! you guys are amazing!! Who ever else manned the ship tonight props to you guys too!!! We are in this til the end guys!!!

Never mind guys

Somebody help...... I don't know where to find anyone. I am walking around the parking lot with miller lite. I have a problem. I have no idea what everyone looks like. I am in lot e by gate 2. I know I'm probably not supposed to text phone numbers, my cell I'm on is *************if anyone has directions please call me. I edited that out... no need for it to be out there now.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 03:06 PM) Oh and by the way, the bar business around old Comiskey was very brisk in the 50's and early 60's. There were more local taverns then but especially the more well taverns/restaurants were packed before and after games. Places like Schaller's Pump, the Stock Yard Inn, McCuddy's, Governers Table and several more represented the before/after game scene. Almost all guys though ... not the whole party atmosphere thing. When the mid late 60's came along, especially 1967/1968 there were unfortunately more social tensions and one of the columnists in town was always talking about how dangerous it was to go to games at Comiskey, which was total BS. I must've walked to 100's of games ... literally ... from 29th and Poplar by myself or with my cousin, and we never got hassled once. I will have to look up the name of that columnist, he had an agenda of some sort. Anyways, 1967 was the year the Sox were in the pennant race until the last weekend and still couldn't draw 1 million. Most if not all due to the media spin re: the neighborhood and a somewhat apathetic Sox fan base who was tired of seeing the team always come up short, mostly to the Yankees. I remember going to games in 1968, 1969, 1970 when the ballpark was a ghost town. The Sox would always give away tickets at McGuane Park in Bridgeport and even then lots of people wouldn't even go for free. I see a bright future for the sox. The area around the park is changing. You can tell when liquor stores are being closed, condo's and starbucks are being built. I think this will get us in the 30-35,000 attendance mark consistantly 10 years from now.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) The upper deck at Wrigley was often closed during the early part of the 60's and for several years in the mid 70's. My how times have changed. wasn't the wrigley area like the slums of chicago?

.... the South Siders drew bigger crowds and WGN-TV put both local teams on simultaneously By Bob Vanderberg Tribune staff reporter June 17, 2005 This past week marked the first time this season that the White Sox and Cubs were playing home games on the same dates. Such scheduling quirks have become quite commonplace in recent years, but when it first happened--July 12, 1962--it was news. The Cincinnati Reds were in town for a Thursday-Saturday series at Wrigley Field, and the Detroit Tigers were on the South Side for a Thursday-Sunday set at old Comiskey Park. WGN-TV--which at that time did not televise home night games, meaning all Cubs home games were on Ch. 9, along with mostly just Saturday and Sunday Sox home games--announced plans for a special telecast that Saturday. The station would do both games, with Jack Brickhouse handling the call on the North Side and Vince Lloyd doing the same on the South Side. For the most part, it worked. Arne Harris' cameras caught the key blow at Comiskey, Floyd Robinson's two-run, first-inning homer off Detroit's Jim Bunning, and Harris switched to the other side of town just in time to capture Cubs catcher Dick Bertell's homer in the fifth. Later he showed Ron Santo's game-winning, three-run blast off Jim O'Toole in the eighth. There were victories on both sides of town, the Sox winning 4-1 and the Cubs 6-3. Back then, however, no one made much of the teams' attendance figures, neither that day nor the previous two. For the record, here's how they compared: July 12: The Cubs drew 12,886 (9,748 paid) on Ladies Day as the Reds won 8-4; that night, the Sox drew 25,051 as Juan Pizarro threw a two-hitter to beat the Tigers 3-2. July 13: Only 4,983 showed up at Wrigley Field on a threatening afternoon to see Cal Koonce shut out Cincinnati 1-0 on one hit, Don Blasingame's fourth-inning single. At night, the Sox, between rain delays, got a three-hitter from Ray Herbert and won 4-1 before 21,191. July 14: A gathering of 4,629 turned out at Wrigley Field for the 34-57 Cubs' victory, while 10,367 watched the 46-45 Sox. Total paid attendance for each club for the three dates: Cubs 19,410; Sox 56,609. The only other known time the two teams had home games on the same day during the 1960s was on May 9, 1963, a Thursday. The second-place Cubs (16-11) played their scheduled game that afternoon with the Pirates; the first-place Sox (15-10) met the Yankees that night in a hastily arranged makeup of an April 29 rainout. At Wrigley Field, Dick Ellsworth beat Pittsburgh 3-1, allowing only two hits before 5,961. A few hours later, with temperatures dropping to the low 50s, Herbert pitched a two-hitter and blanked the world champs 2-0. Paid attendance: 32,405. A reminder that the White Sox were not always the second team in town. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-baseball-print Copyright © 2005, The Chicago Tribune --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Awesome news!! I always loved JB!!

we could probably relax a little now. That was just in case

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 01:57 PM) Who's the first baseman on your All-City team? 8.9% Derrek Lee, Cubs (243 responses) 91.1% Paul Konerko, White Sox (2500 responses) 2742 total responses lets get this to 3,000

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 01:41 PM) The cubs fans are hiding, there gunna flood at some point we just have to be prepared. I'm gonna be at the tailgate and game. so you guys better man this ship!! lol

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 01:39 PM) Dlee hasent even reached 300 yet either LMFAO!!!!!!! This is too funny !!

he's past 2,000

Kong is past 1,800

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 01:24 PM) Enlightened by kyyle: Yess!!!

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 01:07 PM) Rangercal must belive in the quote "failure is not an option" nice job rangercal once again "win or die trying"