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QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 7, 2008 -> 04:47 PM) I would have cheered for OSU to keep it in the family, but now that I see Rock didnt root for Wisconsin.... Ah, sorry badge, didnt even watch wisco, you know I got love for the 5th quarter.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 7, 2008 -> 04:42 PM) So everyone here is for OSU tonight, right? I would think that is no chance in hell. But at least a few Big Ten people should be. Even I cheered for mich and Ill.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Jan 7, 2008 -> 04:34 PM) Um, mental illness often has a genetic component. If not genetic, they shared a similar environment growing up. Also, I think that being 16 and pregnant is quite different than shaving your head, beating a car with an umbrella and holding your kids hostage. . . Ya, that was a tongue in cheek comment, I figured it would be read that way. As someone with a psych degree, I understand the origins of mental illness. 16 and pregnant just means you are somewhat ignorant, not necessarily crazy.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 7, 2008 -> 04:28 PM) Where exactly was this ranking that had Danks as #12 in 2006? It wasn't Baseball America, he's never topped 50 there. Ah, I thought I was on prospectus but I realized its Mayo's rankings. http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/ne...x.jsp?content=2 I believe ESPN had him at 24 the same year

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 12:51 PM) It's widely rumored that this psychotic break is partially of a manic episode gone in the red zone from her BiPolar disorder. Ive seen Bi Polar and borderline behavior in one of my ex's they truly turn into another person all together, its scary. But somehow this one rubbed off on her little 16 year old sister as well, figure THAT out.

Couldnt sleep, cant eat, nightmares of 41-14 running through my head.

Thanks for many many years of time wasting and productivity declining. Here here!

I find it somewhat ironic that Gio and DLS are considered by a few on this board as these cant-miss stud type talents, when Danks and Floyd are in the same if not better pedigree rankings-wise. In 2006 Danks was rated as high at the 12th best prospect in baseball, neither DLS or Gio have touched that, and maybe never will. Basically he should have stayed in the minors last year and would have started this year as our top prospect, instead he developed early and gained some much needed MLB experience. Gavin Floyd was among the same if not better pedigree ranking in the top ten and as high as 14 as a 22 year old. He's been listed in the top 50 4 times, and was a number 4 overall pick. I know rankings and whatnot are not gospel, but its funny how we basically write off Danks (who was in the majors one year too early) and Floyd (ceiling not quite reached) as these castaway 4-5 starters, when they accomplished and were forecasted to be better than both of the arms we just traded away. How about this: DLS is going to be 22 this Feb. When Danks and Floyd were both 22 years old, they were in major league camp competing for a starting position. DLS will most likely be getting his first shot at AA ball.

QUOTE(Kenny Hates Prospects @ Jan 7, 2008 -> 01:01 AM) I would hope that for Oakland's sake they don't have to consult Baseball Prospectus before making any trades. Maybe they felt Sweeney was as close to a sure thing as they would get from the Sox, but wouldn't do the deal unless they could pick up a couple stud pitching prospects in addition? That sounds logical to me. A prospect that wouldnt crack most teams top ten is the most sure thing? Please get me some of whatever you are drinking.

You know, every game he gets better, I think we hit the gold mine with Buff, i think he will turn out to be a real solid player.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 07:04 PM) Or Sweeney could become a Rusty Greer type of hitter (.300 with 15-20HR's a season), Gio becomes a #2 starter, and DLS becomes an ace by developing his change-up in the next season or 2 in the minors. It's impossible to project what these young guys are going to do. Who knew that after Brian Anderson hit over .300 in 2005 at Charlotte, he would hit close to .200 for the White Sox in 2006? Who knew that Josh Fields would hit over 20 HR's in 2007 in the majors? Exactly. Of course in prospects generally they do not reach their ceilings, so the PROBABILITY of not producing at that level is greater. Which at this point makes it a good trade, and MOST LIKEY will continue to be a good trade.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 06:41 PM) I could be wrong, I've been wrong before... but I've also been right. If I am totally 100% wrong about this whole thing, I will fess up and admit it. But I just don't think I am and I have a feeling about DLS and Sweeney that will really make us regret this. I didn't know predictions were not allowed. It would be pretty hard for us to regret this trade. DLS would have to shed his 2 pitch arsenal and would have to end up being better than a BP arm which alot of scouts think he is destined to be. At the same time Gio must be a contributing member of the Oakland A's for the next several years, and better than league avg, at the same time Sweeney must produce more than a reserve OF'er. All of that has to happen to offset the production of Swisher until 2012 and possibly beyond, or Swisher + any draft picks he brings us when he leaves. If they all perform like many scouts who review our minor league system envision, Sweeney will be a 4th Of'er hitting for basically zero power, Gio would be a #3 or #4 starter, and DLS has the ability to be a serviceable to dominant major league closer. That may make them more valuable than a middle of the order hitting entering his prime on sheer volume alone, but it would be a very close contest.

QUOTE(SnB @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 06:47 PM) down 3-0 after the first. Wings just hit every pass they needed and are looking like they are in a different league than the Ice Hogs right now. fixed

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 06:23 PM) You read too much Keith Law. Ha, I saw he regurgitated that POV in his chat.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 06:10 PM) It seems ripping Sweeney is the thing to do now. I really don't understand. The guy has a beautiful swing and has been hurt. Granted his numbers were dissappointing in 2007, but he's only 22. Josh Fields gets so much love on this board, when he was 22 he hit .250 with 16 homers in AA. Not just on this board, Sweeney has basically made the rounds of several MiLB scouting reports as being Mr. 5 o'clock, a guy who hits in BP but cant hit like that in games. I always like Sweeney's swing and his hitting approach. I think he will still end up being a nice MLB player some day if he hits like he can, if not, hes a 4th OF'er bumping around the league.

QUOTE(lostfan @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 05:08 PM) How exactly? As things stand now, he just plain isn't a good defensive 3B. Yeah, most players get written off after not even a full season of ball in the majors..... Crede came up and immediately was godly......

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 06:06 PM) So you would have been all for trading Josh Fields in 2006 for Linebrink considering the bullpen was terrible and Fields was just a prospect. I didnt know Linebrink was a 27 year old middle of the order hitter that is just entering his prime and is signed until 2012? But if you would like to keep comparing this situation to something else totally irrelevant, thats cool. I wouldnt mind seeing the reactions from when Reed was traded.

I WISH WE HAD THOSE PROSPECTS!!!!! I NEED PROSPECTS!!!!!! WHO CARES THAT WE GOT A YOUNG SLUGGER FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS, I WANT MY DAMN PROSPECTS!!!!!!

QUOTE(KevinM @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 11:24 AM) Yes, I am sure they wanted Sweeney more than DLS. Please. Or Gio who is one of the top 50 prospects in all of baseball, but they wanted our prospect who on most teams wouldnt crack the top ten. Makes sense.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 02:14 PM) Or the Michigan sweatshirt he wore on arrival to the hotel. He's buddies with the OSU recruits and they are pushing hard for him. He's interested in OSU heavily for sure. But the stupid buckeye on the helmet and the Michigan sweatshirt mean nothing. Ah, I forgot about that, he pulled on a Michigan sweatshirt in the car before he met Brewster and Posey in the lobby of the hotel, he then took it off after busting their balls and went and registered. I forgot about that. Kid has a good sense of humor. As for if the sticker means anything? Prob not, the kid is having fun with recruiting, but according to Brewster, Pryor asked for it himself. http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=2&c=717347

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 12:47 AM) That Devier Posey put on when he wasn't looking.... His good friend who is also committed to the buckeyes? Mmm Hmm, maybe it was the buckeye that Pryor decided to move in with at the game....Maybe it was one of the buckeyes that had dinner with him each night.... Could have been any of them.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 10:42 PM) That's funny because by measurement your signature takes up more space then mine. Thankfully its not filled with my crazy opinions, that is all.

I guess the new thing is put all your crazy opinions in your sig and make it annoyingly large.

If KW pulls Kendrick with Konerko, I dont care who else is thrown in with him. He would be dynamic offensive threat for a 2B, and could be one of the best hitters on the team immediately. IN 88 games last season he hit .322 .347 .796. And hes only 24. Figgins is a rental player, his speed is overrated.

QUOTE(max power @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 06:32 PM) Believing you know for sure that DLS is an ace and being mad for that reason, is much more ridiculous than your man crush reason, imo. I don't even know for sure that DLS is a future MLB starter. Right now its most likely he will end up in the pen.