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Laffeys delivery and motion reminds me alot of sisco, but a foot shorter and like 8 mph slower and with alot more control

QUOTE (fathom @ May 22, 2008 -> 09:30 PM) What happened on this OC play? strike em out throw em out...throw was a little far on the first base side, but he had francisco by plenty...cabrera had it tip off his glove and tried to tag him with the glove and avoid him with the body and just never caught it ....went down as a CS and an Error

ugh OC gotta catch the ball

i think crede had a shot if he just played it straight up and came up throwing

QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 22, 2008 -> 09:21 PM) Toby Hall: The Assault Continues OC we need you right now

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 22, 2008 -> 07:54 PM) They will, just listen to this... Paxson's rather lengthly interview with Chad Ford. He dances around but you can tell that Rose is his man... pax could just be putting up a smoke screen knowing that miami wants rose...drive up the price and maybe drop to 2 and take beasley? i doubt it this is a great article and is how i feel http://www1.naismithlives.com/node/165

damnit, laffey with only 48 pitches so far, it would be nice to have gotten his pitch count up at least a bit to get into their pen....

id be willing to bet that toby hall leads MLB in duck snot : Hit ratio

haha read the scouting report laffey

QUOTE (rangercal @ May 22, 2008 -> 10:18 AM) Where did you come up with this conclusion? Deron Williams 04-05 fg% 43.3 3pt% 35.4 (his last season with Illini) Derrick Rose 07-08 fg% 47.7 3pt% 33.7 Deron Williams 07-08 fg% 50.7 3pt% 39.5% Seems to me that Rose had better overall shooting stats as a freshman then Deron had as a Junior. At 19 , I can see Rose making the same shooting improvements that Deron made by his 3rd full season. So this means that Rose can not be the 2nd? Why not? Because Paul beat him to it? Magic and Isiah played at the same time. I don't think it's fair to compare Rose to Deron or cp3, at the same time, I don't think it's fair to assume he can't match or pass their play in the NBA. I also went by FT shooting to compare rose and williams (but i will admit i didnt pull up derons stats from his sr year, which i probably should have). But you are right it is an area rose can improve on. Certainly Rose has the potential and athletic ability to be as good or maybe better than Paul, but my point is that people on this board (and on sports talk radio) are jumping to the conclusion that he automatically will be. it just seems to me people are saying if we draft rose we get a guy like CP3 or Williams, which while it may come true, isnt nearly the guarantee people are making it out to be. Same thing for Beasley, both are far from being a guarantee at being the top player at their position in the NBA, but it just seems to me that people so eagerly want to throw Rose into that class, when it doesnt seem prudent IMO (at least at this point), and are also much more reluctant to give comparisons for a guy who average 26.5 and 12.4 in college I dont want to give the wrong impression. I am not saying that I in any way dislike Rose or think hes a bad player. In fact, I may want the Bulls to still take him #1. I keep going back and forth on the two. I am just pointing out that I think alot of poeple are looking at this poorly and jumping too eagerly to conclusions specifically about Rose

Rose is a freak athlete but i have reservations about him that nobody else on this board seems to have....frankly it bothers me that everyone is so willing to just accept that if we draft rose, we are getting a player in the williams or paul mode....let me first say that derrick rose (at least right now) is nowhere near the shooter deron williams is, not even close....chris paul is also a once in a generation type player with just an uncanny ability to manage the floor. Now maybe Rose will also have that type of impact, the odds are that he will be a very good player. But just because he plays the same position as those other two guys, dont assume Rose is that type of player. I am willing to accept comparisons more to Dwayne Wade than those other two, because that is much closer to Rose's skill set at least, but even a comparison to Wade is unfair. Maybe I just hate comparison, but i also feel like people are slighting beasley when it comes to comparisons. I mean why is nobody playing the overboard comparison game with Beasley? He could be the next Carmelo, or maybe Pippen if we are gonna assume that he hits his aboslutel potential like we are with rose. That said I absolutely love Rose and am in no way blasting him. I just think we jump to conclusions because 1.) two other young PGs have been very successful (which isnt fair to Rose, and has no bearing on the player Rose will be) and 2.) because he is from chicago also if memphis lost earlier in the tourney like kstate and not in the championship are we talking as much about rose? I dont think we are

QUOTE (tommy @ May 21, 2008 -> 10:25 PM) They are doing the wave at the CELL. few things are more annoying to me than the wave.... crede starting this inning off like OC did in the 6th

im gonna go f***ing crazy if i have to listen to that pepsi rap song during commericals on mlbtv one more time....the tom petty song last year was bad enough, but this is worse

hafner still scares me...i dont care how much hes struggled

QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 21, 2008 -> 10:15 PM) And Ramirez saves Crede from his 10th error of the season. ugh i wish we didnt have to use linebrink here, but ok

maybe thome can just face indians lefties all year? god with the way CQ has hit all year...if JD and Thome get in a groove we are gonna go on a pretty nice streak...especially with NL games coming up and alot of home games

QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2008 -> 10:02 PM) Chris Carter would have never swung at that pitch. chris who?

haha theres a HR pedro cerrano hits in either major league 1 or 2 and JD had the exact same reaction as cerrano during that HR ill take that

QUOTE (Brian @ May 21, 2008 -> 09:59 PM) My mom is a Cards fan and I swear every time I watch them on Extra Innings, Wellemeyer is pitching. is that a flux capacitor?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2008 -> 09:58 PM) It sure seems like Nick Blackburn pitches every game for the Twins. Josh Hamilton is amazing. hes pushin for the triple crown...he berkman and big brown all in 1 year!

QUOTE (fathom @ May 21, 2008 -> 09:57 PM) I actually think the Sox offense is better. I like the Indians staff a little more, just because C.C. is more of an ace than Buehrle. i think we have a better pen too

seems like linebrink and jenks have been getting a ton of work lately...it would be nice to tack a couple runs on here and be able to run out wasserman and logan to close this one out

mlbtv pulling a wciu and lets their commercials that they now run go over and through the first pitch of the next inning

deflection by julio saved a run....nice inning....go get em for one more javy and hand it over to the pen

thought delucci coulda caught it....seems like michaels woulda had it for sure