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QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:01 PM) Keep with the insults, I mean it's not like I talk to the owner and admins every single day. I don't care, ban my ass. I don't care if I'm banned for not allowing people to call 3 run homers by great players luck, when it was off one of our inferior pitchers. If you think your internet threats are going to shut me up, then uhh no.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:01 PM) You don't burn Thornton in the 6th when you know Mauer and Moreneau are going to have another AB. The worst Moreneau could have done in that situation was tie the game. Tie game in the 6th - big deal. Then where was McCarthy or MacDougal to face Hunter? Bringing in Riske is inexcuseable, as is bringing in Cotts. Cotts can't get ANYBODY out right now.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:01 PM) It's fine if they disagree....you know the rules, show a little more class. We're all pissed the Sox lost...but they'll play again tomorrow. And lose to Johan, and then get swept on Sunday since Mark Buehrle forgot how to pitch. Our season just might have died because of our manager, and people STILL love him. 2005 is OVER.

This game wasn't even about intensity, it was about a lead blown due to poor management. It's not like we lost 8-2.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:59 PM) Yep, there's no reason for his personal attack. I even advised him earlier to try and discuss things instead of not accepting other's viewpoints. Ban my ass, I don't care. I'm tired of people defending things that aren't even close to being controversial.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:58 PM) Yeah, I was once of the first members on this board, have poured hours into SoxTalk/FutureSox, and I'm an idiot for disagreeing with you. God forbid someone else thinks otherwise of you, the guy who believes the season is over with 30+ games left. Good job with the personal attack and the spelling too, duders. No, your not an idiot for not agreeing with me, your an idiot for defending our manager by saying one of the premier players in the AL hitting a 3 run homer off our 2nd worst relief pitcher is "luck".

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:57 PM) Basically saying that they came here to kick our ass and they look more determined. Mentioning how all their players were up on the rail rooting each other on, etc. IS HE f***ING SERIOUS?? That s*** means NOTHING if he knew how to manage a game, since we had it won.

QUOTE(UC76 @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:56 PM) Why didn't Jenks pitch the ninth? Wasn't a big enough game I guess.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:55 PM) Ozzie post game on the Score right now. Is he going to talk about how we got unlucky, then call somebody a f**, and then say we'll hit Johan??

QUOTE(ottawa_sox @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:54 PM) Ozzie calls on 4 relievers over 3 1/3 innings and 3 of them give up runs. The Twins march out 5 relievers over 7 innings and give up 1 run. Their guys outhit and outperformed our guys in the clutch. But of course it's all on Ozzie. Do you watch the games? Or are you one of those guys that just loves Ozzie since he sat on his ass and watched the pitchers win it all last year, while his Ozzieball crap had our offense in the bottom half of the AL.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:53 PM) Cotts should be replaced on the roster if he can't be used in the 6th to get a lefty out. That's a GM problem. Would you have preffered MacDougal & Jenks pitch the last 3.1 innings? That's a great way to burn out your pen before September. How about McCarthy, Thornton, MacDougal, and Jenks? 4 pitchers for 3.1 innings in a huge game isn't too much to ask.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:51 PM) Did Ozzie dive across the plate for a ball clearly outside and poke a three-run homer for Minnesota? Did he hit the hanging slider from MacDougal when the best the Twins could do against Mac's fastball were bleeders back up the middle? Jesus, shut up already and credit this loss to absolute lack of luck. Your an idiot, I won't respond to idiots since they don't listen. Sorry.

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:48 PM) I don't think Ozzie can win with some people here. He pulls Vazquez in the 6th, like most of you want to do. You can't bring in Thornton or MacDougal in the 6th. You didn't see Gardenhire bringing in Rincon or Reyes that early. Blame Cotts and Riske for being garbage. Where is Brandon McCarthy?? And Vasquez should have been left in for Morneau, who he had made look bad twice, if your not bringing in B-Mac or Thornton (I could see why not Thornton). He mad made Morneau look bad twice, and I honestly wouldn't have hated him if he left in Javy there, since it was our best option if he hates B-Mac that much and wanted to save Matt.

You know what players choked? NOT OUR BEST ONES, BECAUSE THE MANAGER WON'T GIVE THEM A SHOT. The people that choked tonight were Cotts, Riske, Cora, Guillen, and Podsednik (in the 7th I believe it was). I refuse to blame Eminem since he got nickel dimed and has been great for us, but hell I'd have had Jenks in in that spot personally.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 09:26 PM) The 6th inning was the worst managed inning I've ever seen. Ozzie violated my #1 rule for a manager, which is to always put your team in the best position to succeed. He violates it at least once or twice a week with his lineups and pitching staff management. But tonight was as egregious as ever for him, which says a lot.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:39 PM) Mack did fine today in CF, but today seeing him the lineup sent me over the edge with Oz. Anderson has been great the last two months, gets his 1st triple yesterday, and makes a Web gem grab, and he gets rewarded with a trip on the bench. I dont even have to get into the McCarthy situation. It has been a JOKE what has been done to the arm of Brandon McCarthy this year. I really have been in Ozzie's corner for the whole year. For me, it's hard to be against a manager that brought a World Champion to my team. However, I have to take of the WS blinders, and realize how many mistakes he really is making. If we hadn't won the World Series last year, I'd say Ozzie HAS to be fired after this season. The WS blinders are the only reason I am not saying that yet, his sorry ass is lucky the pitching won him job security last year.

Our season was just killed because our manager is an idiot. Tomorrow of course is a loss, then we'll be lucky to overcome the momentum on Sunday. I can't believe what I just saw.

If you think Ozzie Guillen is a good manager after tonight, I have no respect for you as a baseball fan. He might have just cost us our season. Every day from this point forward he is our manager is a setback for the franchise's on the field product. I don't think I've ever seen a worse managed game in my life. Please, call somebody else a f** and get fired Ozzie, please?

Pods like from Cintron.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 10:18 PM) Hey Ozzie...if you're so worried about Nathan, then show some freaking urgency in the 6th inning. Or the 9th for that matter. Ozzie might have managed us out of the playoffs tonight, and he certainly managed us into a loss. I REALLY hope he says those magic words that get him fired.

I want to punch Ozzie right now, we are 3 outs from losing at least 2 of 3. I can't believe it.

I hope Ozzie sleeps well knowing he might have cost us the season in the 6th inning.

Well, got the batter. Ford to 2nd though with 2 outs for Bartlett. This is the first time in my life I wish I smoked crack.

Tight zone for Eminem.