Balta1701

Lineup: Podsednik, LF Iguchi, 2b Thome, DH Konerko, 1B Dye, RF Ozuna, 3B Mackowiak, CF Uribe, SS For the Rays Lugo, SS Crawford, LF Gomes, RF Huff, 3B Wiggington, 2B NORTON, DH Lee, 1b Paul, C Gathright, CF Man, I can make so many jokes about that D-Rays lineup. Remind their catcher to tag the runner if it's close, note that they have a Lee at 1b and bet how jealous the Cubs are....but hell, I think we'll get to hear Hawk say "Nawton" again, and that's enough for me. And yes, that is the same Nawton.

Ah Mr. O'Reilly...will you ever stop?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:52 PM) What is wrong with you? Seriously, it saddens me to read such horrible statements like what you have posted in this thread. For all we know 80 percent of all power hitters in the 90's used juice. But Bonds is the worst one? Even if he is the biggest asshole on the face of the planet, it doesnt warrant bringing yourself down to his level and disgracing the game by throwing at him like Springer did. You dont want to have him go yard off of you, have some class and walk him. Disgracing the game by throwing at someone? People are thrown at all the time and it certainly doesn't disgrace the game. That's a part of the game. When Escobar hit AJ, did it disgrace the game? I doubt it. When that guy hit Vizquel a few weeks ago, did that disgrace the game? Of course not...I can't even remember the name of the guy who did it, that' show small of a disgrace it was.

QUOTE(samclemens @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:46 PM) yeah, lets crucify them! A lot of people have already done that to the D.A. without waiting for a trial.

QUOTE(samclemens @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:44 PM) when a single judicial proceeding comes to that conclusion, let me know. until that, its only your opinion. Dude, that was sarcasm. I was suggesting that Bush had basically claimed that power. I don't believe he legally does...but a lot of people here sure have defended him when he does step outside the law, or issues a signing statement saying that he's not going to follow a law.

So I'm having difficulty understanding what the actual vote was here. Are these just amendments to the Senate bill which has been stalled because Mr. Frist won't bring up anything for a vote without unanimous conservative support? Are these just those "Sense of the Senate" resolution type thingies? Or are these actual bills which are being passed individually which will go back to the House? If it's the latter, the House will just kill off the citizenship part, if it's the first then the citizenship part will probably get stripped out in conference, and if it's the 2nd, then these would be meaningless.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:30 PM) Is it yours that we can pick and choose which laws we want to obey? Only President Bush has that power.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ May 17, 2006 -> 11:33 AM) oh i agree, i'm sure they're annoying jerks and if i met them i would think they were idiots. but being an annoying idiot doesn't really mean you should go to prison... if it did balta would be posting from Joliet, serving a life sentence (i keeeed! i keeeed!) As long as they hold me at Fox River...I'm set.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 17, 2006 -> 11:22 AM) Someone should really throw at Pierz' head, I mean a lot of people see him as being a mean guy so I suppose he deserves it too. Escobar? Also, there is a difference between throwing at a guy and throwing at a guy's head. You never deliberately go for a head. You hit the arm, fine. Shoulder, ok, if you know what you're doing. But you don't throw at a guy's head.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ May 17, 2006 -> 11:26 AM) I don't think the lacrosse players raped her, BUT -- let's stop trying to make out these guys as poor, put-upon innocents. There's a lot to suggest that many of the players are just racist, spoiled scum. The email, the broom handle suggestion, the "cotton shirt" comment. The most obvious reason to make the accusations is not money, but as a reaction to the general assholeness of the players. I don't want to see anyone wrongly convicted, but beyond that, f*** them. They're rich white folk, and she's a poor black stripper. It's ok, they're clearly better than her.

Get your head out of your ass Jon, and kick theirs'.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 17, 2006 -> 11:16 AM) There's a lot of people in baseball then who should get thrown at, if that's the parameters. If the pitcher is willing to take the suspension, I see no problem at all with throwing at a guy if you're convinced he was a juicer.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 17, 2006 -> 10:54 AM) Yeah, it was something to the effect of the majority of the babies in the US are hispanic.....so "we" need to start having children or whites will be a minority in 20 years. All you need to know? John Gibson is ready and waiting! (Hat tip: Stephen) QUOTE(Cknolls @ May 17, 2006 -> 11:10 AM) Ah 20 years since the last amnesty program. that worked well. Now that's just silly. The reason the last amnesty program didn't work is that we never actually went to the heart of the problem. Reagan's amnesty was supposed to be linked to strong enforcement against employers who hire illegal workers. Unfortunately, that little key part has been ignored more with each passing administration.

Yeah, that's pretty blatant. I'd probably have applauded too, but yeah the guy should be suspended.

QUOTE(YASNY @ May 17, 2006 -> 07:51 AM) Now they are talking about a national database the employers would be required to check before hiring someone. In fact, I think Georgia is trying to implement this right now. So, in effect, that gives the gov't the ability to approve or disapprove of hirings. This is an offshoot of the illegal immigration problem, but easily expandable to include everyone. Such a program already exists at the national level. But thus far, it has only been voluntary, and as enforcement of immigration searches against companies have declined to almost zero in the past few years, there's little reason for companies to participate. QUOTE(Texsox @ May 17, 2006 -> 08:25 AM) Exactly and the control has to be linked to jobs. I wouldn't let them in until there is a job or someone willing to support them. There is no other criteria as important to both parties (immigrant and US) Perhaps let the employers apply for a guest worker permit and then they fill it. There has to be some way to link jobs to immigration. Anything can happen once they are here, companies may close, etc. and we would have to account for that. But from both sides this makes sense. But see, here's the one problem with something like that. If I want to unionize or try to work towards a better salary, or if I want to file a workplace complaint, or something silly like that, I have that right, and if things get really bad I can always just quit and go look for another job. But if a guest worker has a problem with a company, or the company decides it's given out too many raises to guest workers and lets them go in favor of new blood, then those people are stuck without jobs, and if you're only allowed in this country with a job, basically you wind up having to choose between tolerating whatever situation you're in or deportation.

Mike Maroth has an ERA of 2.18. That would win a Cy Young award over a full season. Kenny Rogers has an ERA of 3.23. His career number is 4.20. Nate Robertson, Justin Verlander, and Jeremy Bonderman are all between 3.5 and 3.75. Out of those, the only 1 I think may be able to go down or hold steady is Jeremy Bonderman's. There will be some regression to the mean on most of their parts. Let's also note who they've played: Record 5-2 Vs. Cleveland. 5-2 Vs. Minnesota 3-0 vs. Seattle 3-1 Vs. Texas 4-0 Vs. K.C. 1-1 Vs. Baltimore 2-1 Vs. Oakland 1-2 Vs. LA Angels 0-3 Vs. CWS Out of the teams they've played, the only 2 teams that are above .500 are Texas and the White Sox, and they caught Texas early before Kevin Mench found the right shoes.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 16, 2006 -> 07:27 PM) f*** you, Boone Logan. Get on your bus and don't even come back, s***head. Sorry Boone. We brought you up too early. Head down to AAA, get some confidence, learn to throw strikes no matter who's up, and hopefully we'll see you again soon.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 16, 2006 -> 07:25 PM) I was referring more to him mouthing off about getting playing time, etc. Ugh, this just annoys me...His quote was something to the effect of "I've got to make that play, I don't get that much playing time." It sure sounded to me like he wasn't angling for playing time, it sounded like he was pissed that he blew a play, blew a game, and was heading down to the minors. If he was really whining about playing time, he wouldn't have wound up on the team this year.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 16, 2006 -> 07:24 PM) He needs to be shot in the face Mr. Cheney? Yeah we could use a hand.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 16, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) Gload continues to not produce when given the chance. I still can't believe he's still on the team after last year. Didn't his chance last year equal a whopping 1 game or so?

Seriously...they've seen 4 pitches in our first 2 batters and we're down by 3. WTF?

Oh come on Paul, we need baserunners, take some damn pitches. You can't get 3 with a solo shot.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 16, 2006 -> 07:20 PM) I thought sweaty Joe was their closer. You mean Borowski? Marlins.

Thornton spits on the doubters.