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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 07:30 AM) I love that they are going to raise the signing age to 18 instead of 16. Are they confident enough in documentation at this point that the end result of that will be actual age increases and not more document fraud? (Legitimately have no idea).

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 07:43 AM) The Cubs' fans have gone dormant... Hill, Urias, Kershaw the next three games. Did they change game 5 to Kershaw as of last night? Report I read this morning says that due to the extra workload they were not going to run Kershaw out in game 5 on short rest and that Maeda was slated for that game.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 08:10 AM) Its so crazy that they are doing this without Salazar and Carrasco. Maybe both can come back for the World Series and split a game? Example: Carrasco goes 3-4 innings, Salazar goes 3-4, bullpen covers rest. If they win it in 4 and can rest everyone for a week, then even throwing Kluber on short rest today will be easily recovered from. Kluber could throw game 2 on extra rest, and just keep Tomlin away from sharp things.

The Philly Phanatic goes for Jury Duty.

If you're in this thread you are likely to consider this a useful 6:00.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 07:04 PM) Because we all know the Sox aren't burning this to the ground. Even a rebuild will have a much shorter window than your typical rebuild with an eye on competing ASAP. Then they better f***ing nail every single player they bring back in any major trades, because if they're willing to accept less overall talent to try to make things happen faster they create much less of a cushion for a bust.

Here's my other attempt at this one: Chris Getz could absolutely be great at this position - that is within the realm of possibility. There's no record of him either way, so maybe he totally nailed a discussion with management and that's why they brought him in. It is absolutely possible to find diamonds in the rough/get lucky/whatever you want to call it. Perhaps after doing their due diligence with Getz, they believe they have one. I could buy that. Furthermore, I could see a franchise with a recent record of success making a move exactly like this - bring back a guy who had experience in your organization so that your philosophy stays the same. But then put that in context of every other staff hire they've made and you run into one major problem - if everyone at every level is good at their job, and the hiring process shouldn't be questioned, then why the 4th place finishes? Renteria is manager without a competitive interview process. Basically his entire staff is filled out from within the organization. Even if I don't consider this the FO being lazy as I noted was possible earlier here, when I step back there's a problem here. It's certainly possible that several of these guys are really good at what they do, just as it is possible that Getz is really good at what he's going to do. However - if all these guys are very good at what they're doing, then we are left with the open question of how this team keeps declaring they're the best team in the division and winding up in 4th place. These 2 realities do not agree. If the guys in the organization, and the hiring method of the organization, are regularly producing results such that you want to keep the guys around, and the system is working well, then the team should not only not be a 4th place team, they should especially not be declaring themselves competitive and then winding up in 4th place. I keep saying that I will be convinced this organization is unhappy with where they sit when they make moves consistent with that. I'm still waiting. If the White Sox had won 10 division titles in a row and their manager decided to retire, I'd imagine that the moves would look very much like this - a series of promotions from within, directly promoting the bench coach, and bringing in guys who came up through their system in order to sustain the setup that had produced 10 division titles in a row even if they didn't seem to have a lot of experience. As soon as they start making moves to suggest they're unhappy with how things worked the last few offseasons, I'll give them credit for that. Until then, you can expect threads like this one.

I'll admit I can't prove this one, but as of now I can't argue successfully against the nagging feeling that this front office has just gotten lazy. Don't think it's worth the time to interview other candidates for the managerial spot, basically the entire coaching staff is filled by promoting from within, those guys are replaced with guys that they already have in house or know personally. "Scheduling interview is hard work and we just don't feel it's worth it."

QUOTE (Tony @ Oct 16, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) I actually agree with Greg here. They made the NLCS last year, were the best team basically the entire season in 2016, and have far and away the best talent in the MLB. Oh, and they've been incredibly healthy all season. Baseball is incredibly lucky, yes. But if the Cubs don't win in 2016, the season as a whole wasn't a success. FWIW, they had more time spent on the disabled list than the White Sox - a big chunk of that is Schwarber of course, but the only team in the playoffs who used the DL for more man-games than the Cubs is of course the Dodgers. Counting guys like Schwarber and Fowler hitting the DL, you can't even say that they only lost backup players or anything like that. They just looked healthy because they built a roster to be the best team in the league and you can't do that unless you have enough depth to overcome injuries.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 16, 2016 -> 03:44 PM) I guess maybe Chris will be good at it, but... COME ON! You replace the guy who runs the clearly weakest part of your organization, one which has been a weakness for over a decade, and replace him with ANOTHER INSIDE GUY?!?! I mean really. WTF. I think the first word replace should be "promote", right? They made that guy an assistant coach?

So, I'd still say give Fox more time next year, but you're starting to see the Fox Hunters circling.

Sigh. d**n Gordon Beckham. My brain immediately thought of Beckham's scrawl in the dirt as soon as I saw his name. It literally was "where do I know Chris Getz? Oh Right, Getz is ___, he was our 2b for a bit". In that order.

Wonder if there's some insurance that covers that deal for the team. Anywho, end result = this is one more team hunting for a LHP reliever. The White Sox could use one of those, so there's extra competition.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 02:02 PM) Wow, such anger at me when these threads are all mixed and matched and not just by me. Also those stories were about Hillary and she is a Democrat, geez. Yes. And if you want to go advance your foolish, uneducated conspiracy theories from Fox Insider, that's literally what the Republican thread is for. That's why we made it, to the letter. You're taking Republican Conspiracy theories from the #1 Republican news source and wondering why the Democrats don't want to hear it any more. Go wallow in the other thread with your conspiracy garbage. We've got work to do over here making this a better country and world.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) He's against black lives matter. Hmmm.... this man says it's all fixed and he's former Milkwaukee sheriff. Our country is a mess, folks. Hillary supporters can celebrate her victory but it doesn't mean she is fit. All these issues mentioned by the sheriff could have turned into huge scandals, but instead all the focus is on Cosby, I mean Trump. http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/12/sher...-clinton-donald Get the F*** out of the Democratic Thread with Fox News Insider links. Seriously, there's a thread next door for Sean Hannity and Fox Insider conspiracy theories. Go make the country a mess over there, we are building a better one.

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 01:43 PM) I'm not familiar with Milwaukee politics but how did Sheriff Clarke ever get elected? He's advocating violence on his twitter feed. Remember how Trump launched his "talking to white people about how terrible the lives of the blacks are" part of his campaign? He launched that in Milwaukee, in one of the whites-only areas. Apparently it's one of the most segregated cities in the country in terms of which race lives where.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 01:38 PM) Don't get mad at me for merely pointing out we could be hearing something outlandish each day about the Clintons if the media wanted to go there. They don't ... at this time. My educated guess is they will probably a year into her presidency for about 18 months before gearing up to support her re-election bid. Like Trump, Clintons have a lot of red flags had the media chosen to go that way. Since the FBI decided to save her, it's been all Trump all the time. Yup. Hillary Clinton shared cat gifs. Donald Trump Supporters want to shoot her. This is equivalent.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 12:28 PM) We're talking about the director of player development and the minor league pitching coordinator, two of the most important positions on the development side. I'd say that's pretty different than promoting a minor league manager or pitching coach. Call me skeptical. I don't see why you would say that is obviously the reason for the choices rather than "next guy up".

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 11:19 AM) I've never seen an article that felt so close to an Onion satire piece turn out to be so scary...tough/er times lie ahead before these people just go away. Every day, something more and more outlandish. It's starting to sound like the plot from Designated Survivor. So yeah, no one will bother me because I look the correct way, but man if I were still in PA and weren't a white male I would be a little bit nervous already. So success. I guess we now understand what the end result is of all the lies about voter fraud coming from one party the last few years.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 10:52 AM) Seems like promoting two development guys to the coaching staff in Capra & Hasler signals we'll be rebuilding next year. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 10:55 AM) This might be the most intriguing post in the entire thread. Nice connection. McEwing took over the 3b coach job with Robin's first staff in 2012 after a couple years of managing at Winston-Salem and Charlotte for the org. Thigpen was a minor league pitching coach before coming up to the big league level. Is there some obvious reason I'm missing as to why this is different? Promotion from within seems like the norm, not the exception with this management.

QUOTE (gatnom @ Oct 12, 2016 -> 01:29 PM) Regardless of anyone's opinions on what the Sox should do, they should be able to agree on this. It's just not how the FO works.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 06:29 PM) Just a reminder, that you make this statement, but there are a hell of a lot of republicans who have been very vocal against Trump. I don't think you ever saw me say anything kind about him and I've mentioned on multiple occasions how embarrassed I am. I also don't think you can just lump everyone voting for Trump or putting a vote his way or who supported him at any time as racist persay, you could absolutely lump almost all of them as being "frustrated" with the process. Now there are definitely a fair share who fall into the camp of "nutjobs / crazies", etc, and that doesn't just mean race, but plenty of other things. And how exactly did it get to this point? Did you go along when your party called for "Self deportation" in 2012? Did you get angry and vote against that? Did you casually look the other way at the howls of "voter fraud" when even people within the party admitted publicly that it was just a way to keep the blah people from voting? Were you ok with your party being filled with this poison up to a certain point and only mad when the cup finally spilled over? For crying out loud, here's 5 minutes of you can imagine crammed into one Fox News segment. This aired on the Republican's quasiofficial network. In 2016. How did we get to this point? How did we get to the point where we have a KKK member running for Congress, where we have slurs being hurled at Jewish reporters, where you can drive past all the Confederate flags to a trump rally? Because people didn't stop it. Because people were ok with it as long as it did something useful.

QUOTE (balfanman @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 09:07 PM) If, and I realize that it's a big IF, the Cubs do not go all the way this year would they be a possible trade partner for Sale? They certainly have the talent and would be even more desperate to get the job done. Frankly, I don't believe the Cubs have the talent left in their minor leagues to get him right now. They'd have to give up someone from the major league roster and that would be a mistake. They could start off with Contreras as a reasonable centerpiece, but Contreras + Baez + Soler doesn't get me giving up Sale and they gave up a strong price for Chapman earlier this summer.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 04:24 PM) That is just it. I don't think there is a particularly effective usage to be had here. Even in the offering of public education, if a student isn't willing to participate in it, it is a waste. In this case, if a parent who already has the attitude that education is worthless is being depended on to provide for that child, even if it means getting them to some programing, it isn't going to be done with education in mind. In order be effective, you would have to have the government raise that child. The problem with that statement is that anything that removes a child from their parents is generally a traumatic event. I think the available studies on this are pretty clear - unless the home the kid is in is a true threat to their life, if it's possible to keep the kid in their original home, there is a solid benefit to keeping them their in terms of the kid's grades, likelihood of winding up in jail, drug use, etc.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 04:25 PM) There is a s***load of empty seats in Chavez ravine today And it appears playoff Kershaw has shown up It's only the first inning. LA is always like that in the first innings.