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QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 05:10 PM) Tejada swings at everything? 83 K's in 654 ABs? You must be thinking of someone else, like Richie Sexson. Ever read Moneyball? Beane used to call him Mr. Swing At Everything. He hated Tejada. He swings at everything, but he doesnt miss too often. The count doesnt get worked very much with him at the plate.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 04:47 PM) If the trade goes down, where would Tejada bat in the order? 3rd? Pods Gooch Tejada Konerko Thome Dye AJ Crede Anderson We still wouldnt have a #2 hitter. Ozzie wants to move Iguchi down in the order and Tejada swings at everything, so he wouldnt be good there either. It'd be nice if Anderson showed enough ability to move the runner over consistently, but it'll probably be Gooch again if we pick up Tejada.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 04:17 PM) They both are sponsored by Old Spice, so that may be why. :puke We'd have a huge upgrade at shortstop and we'd be moving a rent a player, because we're not going to give him a multiyear deal at $11-12 million per. I'd say that it's probably even money whether McCarthy has better numbers than Contreras next year, if given a regular spot in the rotation. And lets not forget that the prospects we trade tend not to pan out. All you really get when you trade for a prospect is a lottery ticket. That would definitely help.

QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 03:14 PM) Remember, Contreras is of low value to the Sox because McCarthy is waiting in the wings AND he is a short-termer contract wise. Something about Contreras still smells like Esteban Loaiza to me. I think his trade value has definitely peaked.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:47 PM) Warning: Out of line comment coming. I think many of them prefer this captain In Boys' Town? naaaaaawww!

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:40 PM) hahahaha. Anchorman always comes out on top however. I would give the cubs more of a Captain Ron Rating If I played for the Cubs, I'd probably prefer this Captain

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:37 PM) *submits vote to rename thread Rock vs. Adam G.....Prior or count and how to win a message board arguement* Nah, it's done now. 2006 will be a very telling year for Contreras and Prior...Jose might revert to pre All Star break 2005 form and Prior might get injured yet again. If those happen, they both need to be shipped out of town ASAP.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:35 PM) You ate the whole wheel of cheese? Anchorman is one of those things that get funnier the more times you watch. Like the Cubs.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:32 PM) You know I dont speak spanish. BARK TWICE IF YOU'RE IN MILWAUKEE!1

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) This is one of the funnier argument-resolutions I've seen lately. IMO, you're both wrong. It's also amusing to see people begging and pleading to not turn a thread into pages of useless debate and argument. That's the whole freakin point of message boards.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:26 PM) At least you know when to abandon a moot point. Victory! Please, everyone knows that internet debate is about how many laughs your witty posts get. you = teh lose

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:23 PM) Note to self: When losing an argument go as far off topic as possible. Ok i got it. Note to self: pat self on back to ensure intellectual superiority when the ad hominems come back at you.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:21 PM) Lets compare their 2nd halves then. Contreras 2.96 Prior 1.52 omgcherrypicker!1 Seriously Rock, learn how to read. :headshake

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:17 PM) Seriously, you need to learn to read, before you jumped in this argument with no knowledge, it was brought up by someone other than me that Count was better this year than prior in 2003. That was the comparison, not the players now, but these two years in comparison. No knowledge? Learn how to read? You sure are one seriously condescending SOB. You're the genius who is acting like it's ridiculous to compare to the two. Maybe I should CAPITALIZE some RANDOM words in my sentences like you do so I LOOK more RIGHT.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:16 PM) Nobody is cherry picking years, not even me. The comparison was brought up that Contreras in 2005 was better than Prior is his best year (2003). This is why im telling you to read posts before you argue. So therefore the comparison of stats would be Prior 2003 vs Count 2005. Not exactly cherry picking. So if k's and wins mean nothing to you, how about ERA?? Or WHIP. Yeah, ERA is a good one. How different is Contreras' 2.96 in the second half from Prior's 2.43 in 2003? What's the average run differential between the AL and NL?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:13 PM) Yes, unfortunatley the debate was him in 2003. Be gone. Well lets debate the third week in August 2002. :headshake

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:10 PM) That's some interesting cherry-picking of statistics. Contreras allowed more walks in 05 than Prior did in 03. Should I care? Beats the hell out of me. What, you guys are cherry picking years, I cant cherry pick stats? The walks bother me, but strikeouts I could care less about because I dont play fantasy baseball and wins have as much to do with run support and defense as pitching.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:11 PM) So, thats all you got? More hits? Come on, compare full seasons, no comparison. Compare 2nd halves Prior was 10-1 with a 1.52 walking ONLY 16 whilst K-ing 95 Compare full seasons? Prior isnt going to do much from the DL. You have to compare the body of work, and injuries are part of that for Prior.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:07 PM) How is that my opinion. I posted statistics that were ALL in favor of Mark Prior. In 2003, he was better than Contreras was this year, even if you isolate only the 2nd half, Prior still has better numbers. Since he pitches in the NL Mark Prior gets a free inning a game and still allowed more hits in '03 than Contreras did in '05 (entire season).

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:04 PM) Yes, no s*** he is good. Read the post before you respond. His claim was that the count was better last year than Prior in 2003. Which is NOT true. What the hell do you think I was replying to? And that's JUST your opinion.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:00 PM) wow, are you serious? Prior in 2003 was 18-6 with a 2.43 ERA and 245 k's 50 bb's this was the counts best year and he was 15-7 3.61 154 k's 75 bb's post all star he had a 2.96 ERA. Not even as good as Priors whole season. Seriously, you need to research your claims before you type them. 11-2 2.96 in the second half (AL, not NL) and 3-1 3.09 in the playoffs is hardly chopped liver. Prior allowed more hits in '03 than Contreras allowed last year as well.

QUOTE(maggliopipe @ Jan 2, 2006 -> 11:06 AM) Irony. Not when he put it in green it's not.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) Miguel Cabrera is a great player and texeira is a above great hitter and a gold glove winner i believe. They definitely put up numbers and they're great players, but I guess I dont think of them as the super elite type players. I'd put Jeter, Ichiro, Clemens, Oswalt, Mariano Rivera and Derrick Lee ahead of those guys. Just my two cents though.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:53 PM) I'd say more of a top 7 pujlos cabrera a-rod santana vlad texeira tejada I cant believe that you guys like Carbrera and Texeira that much.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:39 PM) http://www.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28747 The Orioles Board has a big thread going off this same rumor. They think both offers are crap. Interesting to read Baltimore's opinion. They all say Tejada is a top 5 player in baseball, which I completely disagree with. I can name 10 players I would rather have. Johan Santana Albert Pujols A-Rod Vlad Ortiz Derek Lee Andruw Jones Miguel Cabrera D-Train Texeira Obviously it's all opinion anyway, but I wouldnt put Ortiz (no D), Andruw, Cabrera, or Texeira on that list ahead of Tejada.