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QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 05:24 PM) This will bite him in the butt. He doesnt even know who is who over there! How are we to trust him to know how to deal with them? it's just a slight campaign gaffe. who doesn't say something wrong on accident at times? and he had his buddy Lieberman there to let him know he slipped up a little.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 05:28 PM) It won't bite him in the butt. He could keep making that mistake for the next 6 months and no one would call him on it unless he did it during one of the debates in October. Or at least no one other than those evil liberal bloggers. Actually, it was one of the lead stories on CNN. edit: it was just on CNN again.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 05:09 PM) You saying that no one is allowed to criticize black people if they aren't black. You said it, its hyperbolic, I pointed out that its inflammatory and doesn't add to the dialogue. If you heard it from some talking head, does that make it better? But CNN said they were a race relations expert and I believe the guest had a PHD in sociology. I'm just going along with experts on this one, northside72

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) This thread WAS civilized. There is no need to call anyone an "oreo", nor is there any reason for the laughable hyperbole that will only serve to enflame people. Tone it down please, lest other actions become necessary. There have been arguments on CNN that a white person has no right to judge a black church or a preacher at that church. I don't see how it is now laughable. Why are you threatening to ban me?

QUOTE(lostfan @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 04:47 PM) No, I understood you... I just don't know why you said it. If you look at my post again, there is a section at the top with a quote. It looks like this: That is what I was responding too. Now which part of my post goes against that? He said the guy was just like a black white supremacist shown in a sketch. He also used a racial slur, oreo, when referring to the CNN guest.

QUOTE(lostfan @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 04:44 PM) huh? Seriously, that confused you? I don't know what to tell you.

QUOTE(AngelasDaddy0427 @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 04:38 PM) Larry Elder is the definition of the term Oreo... Hell I bet it has his picture next to it... He reminds me of that Chapelle Show skit about the blind black white supremacist. Why isn't he entitled to his opinion ? Why are you lowering yourself to calling someone a race trader? Are you white? If so, you might want to watch your words as, because as a white person you have no right to criticize a black man. Thats the theory behind why white people can't criticize Wright, correct?

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 02:17 PM) This is the only acceptable shade of green, because it's the one I use. Friggin idiot... OMG WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM!? THIS IS THE CORRECT GREEN

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 01:52 PM) So, Obama's speech... does it turn things around for him and get him some good press? Obviously Faux News wont drop it, but i think the media at large will drop this Wright thing and move momentum back to Obama again. I would expect the story to die down. CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC will defend Obama for a day or two. FOX will question whether Obama did enough to distance himself for a couple days. All the media outlets are going to have to eventually let this one go. The bigger question is if there will be lingering damage to Obama. Personally, I don't think Obama believes the Rev Wright rhetoric. Rather that Wright was an important political ally for Obama early in his political career, and he probably feels a sense of loyalty to the guy so will defend him to a certain point, but he has repeatedly disavowed the radical comments.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 10:15 AM) he's getting applause from the press! that shouldn't surprise anyone

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 17, 2008 -> 04:43 PM) It's true that ABC did not preempt all programming to air wall-to-wall coverage of Jeremiah Wright and the nefarious left-wing plot to bring a monstrous America-hater black separatist antisemite into the WH. f***ing Democratic hacks. To quote the honorable Jeremiah Wright: "Barracks chickens have come HOME!.......to roost"

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 17, 2008 -> 02:06 PM) Two very interesting stories about the Dem race today... 1. Obama, who has pretty much tried to avoid discussing race in this contest unless its brought up, has apparently decided its time to open the flood gates. He's set to give a speech on Tuesday in Philly discussing racial issues and the current Presidential race. Should be interesting. 2. More and more, we're starting to see information that the "bump" that Clinton was getting that helped her in OH and TX, and that she is still capitalizing on now, appears to be in great part supported by Republicans. Yup, that's right. According to this article, about 100,000 GOP voters voted for her in OH, 119,000 in TX and 38,000 in MS. This despite the fact that Obama had been consistently dominant among independents and GOP'ers prior to that. So, it appears that perhaps the Rush bump may be real. Republicans, now that their race is over, are pushing Clinton because of course they'd rather have her in 2008. Or, they'd at least rather see the Dems fight to the bitter end. I think this scandal involving Obama's pastor is going to help Hillary as well.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 17, 2008 -> 09:14 AM) No, I think Fox was the first gleeful, 24/7, 80-point headline coverage of it. Given the number of cites ABC receives, I'd hardly say it was buried, though it may not have been featured as exclusively as Republicans wanted. Who is citing ABC?

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 16, 2008 -> 02:31 PM) The story has been around in some form for over a year, but it picked up steam with the Farrakhan award, and really hit its stride with the analysis of the printed sermons. I'm fairly certain ABC published the first article reporting on those published sermons. (And it does seem that they are credited most often by early stories/blogs.) Fox also, as I understand it, bought the sermons. I'm pretty sure they reported on those after ABC, but independently. As far as I'm concerned, both Fox and ABC broke the story (at least, this phase of the story), but it's simply not true that Fox was the only one covering it. I haven't seen all the media reports on this, but FOX seemed to be the first major coverage. It could have been a buried ABC story, so I guess that would constitute 'breaking it' . I saw a CNN piece that covered it, by in a way as to defend Obama. This really isn't the type of story Democrats in the MSM newsrooms want to cover, especially following a Democrat scandal involving Spitzer.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 16, 2008 -> 12:24 PM) Iirc, the first article on all this came from ABC. Actually, I think the story broke on talk radio and FOX ran with it that night.

Legalizing pot is probably the thing to do. I like the idea of taxing it, taking pot profits out of the hands of criminals, and hopefully putting less people in jail. I also think driving stoned should be a DUI, so I guess they would need to come up with some sort of test for that.

YES!!!!!!!

QUOTE(AngelasDaddy0427 @ Mar 15, 2008 -> 02:09 PM) I watched the videos and I'm as white as they come. He didn't say anything outright false. Maybe exagerated. So why is this such a big deal? I saw them too and they are pretty crazy. But I think there is a segment of the population that believes stuff like AIDS was created by the US government to kill black people. But there aren't nearly enough people with these types of beliefs to get anyone elected president. Honestly, the guy is a total nut case and the videos of him that FOX news have been playing nonstop are really damning. There is a reason Obama is running from this guy as fast as he can.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 14, 2008 -> 01:16 PM) Kudos to the US House for passing a surveillance bill that does NOT grant immunity to the telecoms. Glad to see they are willing to stick to their guns on something, instead of caving to a weak President. This was the right thing to do. Bush will veto of course, meaning that some of the tools the country needs to protect itself won't be available - Bush yet again weakening the country's defenses. 2009 cannot come soon enough. good thing the dems are paying off all those bribes the trial lawyers gave them. USA! USA! too bad the Senate voted to keep pork spending going atleast Obama, Clinton, and McCain voted anti-pork. which is encouraging.

QUOTE(bmags @ Mar 14, 2008 -> 04:27 PM) wow, right. A black preacher getting angry about injustices and poverty is on the same lines as the God hates F**s Church? Talk about a stretch. well... the guy also said AIDS was created by the government to kill black people, 9-11 was an inside job, Pearl Harbor was an inside job, supports people with the view that Jews are the devil, ect. so not really that much of a stretch for some people. for others the guy is just telling the truth. let the voters decide where they stand and if they think Obama being a close associate with such a person is a big deal or not.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 14, 2008 -> 01:53 PM) This is nothing, and it won't play in the general election. Obama can point to many times in the past when he's repudiated this guy's beliefs. If McCain tries to go after this, he'll be hit twice as hard on his "spiritual advisor" and the Falwell stuff. It's a nonissue and a nonstarter. we'll see

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 14, 2008 -> 01:36 PM) http://www.motherjones.com/washington_disp...tual-guide.html Oh wow. McCain goes to that guys church? and that guy baptized his kids and performed his wedding ceremony? or is it just some guy McCain said is a spiritual adviser as to get the Huckabee voters out for him? it seems more like the later. some evangelical supports him and he probably doesn't even know much about the guy but decideds he would be a good spiritual adviser. even though i doubt McCain even listens to him or cares what he thinks.

Anyone that thinks Obama's close ties to this guy isn't going to influence the general election just isn't being realistic.

mplssoxfan, do you write that blog? it's pretty good

i think this goes to show that everyone is racist except me. EVERYONE