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Clinton Launches Obama Attack Web Sites http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/st...2659&page=1

QUOTE(vandy125 @ Dec 19, 2007 -> 10:39 PM) More Ron Paul Ownage... nice

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 19, 2007 -> 08:49 PM) So now we are back to Al Gore again. Al Gore wins person of the year for inventing the internet

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 19, 2007 -> 06:29 PM) As long as that company is producing its energy through fossil fuels, sure. They can have tax incentives then. Well, the big oil companies certainly don't deserve our tax dollars. There claims of 'too poor for research' is kind of funny seeing their huge profits. Too bad the Dems are too wimpy to put up any kind of fight, at least force a filibuster instead of folding every time they hear a filibuster threat.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 19, 2007 -> 12:16 PM) I for one don't mind it one bit. This is a simple case where the market isn't necessarily going to produce the result that is most beneficial to the country. There is a gigantic benefit in economic and national security to the energy drop that would be created by this shift, and there appears to be almost no downside other than the initial startup cost of purchasing the newer bulb, which would still drive some nubmer of people onto the older ones. It makes perfect sense for the government to mandate these things. I don't like a mandate, but tax incentives are a great way to boost our energy independence. People can write off all kinds of things, I think they should be able to write off stuff like solar panels. Companies that make major strides to cutting energy consumption or cutting down reliance of certain types of fuel could also get a break.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Dec 19, 2007 -> 04:00 PM) I pretty much agree, but I bet the guy pitching the idea to his bosses was sweating it a bit. you just liked cause you thought it was specifically you.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 19, 2007 -> 03:49 PM) I thought it was one of their best. Dead on with where this society is going. Then 'You' should be the person of the year every year. Can a whole nation of people be 'person of the year' or just people with internet connections? How about naming the founders of the internet 'persons of the year'?

that one was so weak.

http://www.suntimes.com/business/702073,coal121807.article sounds like a good idea

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 03:35 PM) Well, that's true, but I think Paul put it (in one of the debates) that he is running for the GOP nomination, and that he won't seek the office without that. Or something to that effect. Yea, he has pretty much said that. What he said during the debate was "I have no intention of doing that". So I guess that leaves some room for him to change his mind.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 03:23 PM) He has said repeatedly he won't run as an independant. Of course, candidates have been known to change their minds. A Paul/Bloomberg or Bloomberg/Paul ticket would probably get a lot of support. I don't know much about Bloomberg's political stances, but if they aren't very close to Ron Paul's he wouldn't run with him. I guess, technically, when Paul loses the GOP primary and gets the Libertarian nomination he isn't running as an independent.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 03:20 PM) If he is nominated by the Repub's people will vote for him, especially if Clinton is the nominee. I'm sure he'll get the hardcore GOP'er vote. But I think Huckabee will lose tons of support from moderates that voted for GW Bush. I really think even Hillary would beat him. It would be interesting to see what percentage of votes Ron Paul could get if he ran as a Libertarian with a Huckabee vs Hillary match-up.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 03:13 PM) But, that's more than enough money to make him a bit player in the general if he chose to run as an independent He should run as a Libertarian. ... in the event that Republican primary voters select a candidate other than Congressman Paul in February of 2008, the Libertarian National Committee urges Congressman Ron Paul to seek the presidential nomination of the Libertarian Party to be decided in Denver, Colorado during Memorial Day weekend of 2008. http://www.lp.org/fp/article_546.shtml

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 03:12 PM) Except his momentum has been totally buried by Romney and Huckabee. I'm not saying for merely this election. Overall political landscape. If you want to go by "this election only" standard, Huckabee's gains are worthless as well, seeing that he is completely unelectable.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2007 -> 02:49 PM) Too bad it doesn't mean a thing. Oh, I wouldn't say that. It shows growing momentum for a platform like Ron Paul's. Something that can hopefully be built off.

QUOTE(vandy125 @ Dec 16, 2007 -> 06:56 PM) Currently up to 4.7 million. I wonder how high it will go. The $6 million one-day total means the campaign has raised over $18 million this quarter, far exceeding its goal of $12 million. http://www.ronpaul2008.com/ very nice

QUOTE(CubsSuck1 @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 04:31 PM) Another Ron Paul "money bomb" kicks off tonight at midnight... should be interesting to see if he can surpass November 5th's $4.2 million in a single day, and by how much. http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachus...ea_party_event/

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 08:19 PM) Of course, the compromise bill got rid of both of those clauses, requiring people to at least present a Social Security number. That is true. At least they can tell their constituency they tried. Many Republicans also voted for the bill that Bush vetoed. So I guess they are getting screwed over by him too. Didn't the Dems just vote for more Iraq war funding?

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 05:48 PM) That's been done with SCHIP and Stem Cells. And exactly what got accomplished? As compared to whats getting done now? At least they have it on the record they passed it and president vetoed. Maybe if SCHIP wasn't being expanded to all illegal aliens 25 and under, while cutting aid to seniors, it would have passed. The new 'get things done' Dem Senate is terrible IMO. Thats fine if you guys think they're the best. I'm not going to argue with you about it.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 08:11 AM) I am having a hard time seeing why, IN THIS CASE, you are blaming the Dems. That energy bill was a very good thing, now its been watered down a bit by the GOP, and the GOP STILL won't let it pass. Oh, and the White House is threatening veto. This one is directly on the shoulders of Big Oi... I mean, the Republicans. pass the bill and make him veto it or make them filibuster.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 07:35 PM) If the Dems had made the Republicans filibuster even 10 percent of the cloture votes they've blocked this year, that's the only thing the Senate would have done since it started; cloture votes. Not a single bill would have passed because of how much time that took. the GOP wouldn't dare filibuster that much. If they did public outcry would run them out of the Senate in even larger numbers next election cycle. It would be prefect opportunity for the Dems to bash them.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 07:28 PM) Oh, and the Republicans also got the Dems to drop the requirement that 15% of all of our electricity would have to be generated by renewable sources within a decade or so. Again, blame your Dems if you don't like it. They agreed to it.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 07:27 PM) Well, first of all because Nancy Pelosi isn't in the Senate... And the Dems would make them Filibuster...except last time, the Dems tried it, and the Press was all over the Dems for wasting senate time on nothing but a spectacle. They quite often called it a "Democratic filibuster" despite the fact it was the Republicans who were actually blocking the vote. If the Dems thought they'd actually gain anything by forcing the Republicans into a Filibuster, then they would do so. But when the media isn't on their side, all that the talking to death does is hurt the Dems. Fine HARRY REID call them out. The media excuse is bs, the MSM is definately behind the Dems on almost every issue, especially anything to do with global warming. So blame your democrats for this stuff not passing. They aren't doing jack to get anything done.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 07:09 PM) The Republicans today successfully filibustered, by a single vote, a version of an energy bill matching the House version. A much smaller version was passed, restoring the $17 billion in subsidies and tax breaks given to the largest oil companies, but still increasing the CAFE standards and mandating more ethanol production, did pass. So, there you have it. Add in $17 billion for oil companies and you can easiliy break any filibuster. Dems, there's your strategy. are these actual filibusters you keep talking about or "threats" of a filibuster? if they are just threats call out the GOP and make them filibuster. why aren't the dems doing that? why isn't Nancy Pelosi bypassing Senate Rule 22 and making them do a traditional filibuster?

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 04:09 PM) I'm sure people will still bash him... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22248699/ well, now only using 15 times as much fossil fuels as the average American. you go Goracle! woot woot