mr_genius

DAMN IT

right there. that's a strike

0-2 again

OK

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 09:47 PM) It would suck at first but the outlook would have to be better for the long term wouldnt it? I totally agree

ugh

ugh

QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 08:53 PM) Then there is no 90k salary as you said before. You are not figuring it out correctly just making blanket statements. Paying taxes does not equal being informed Do I think we pay too much in taxes. Yes. is it because of the teachers. No. It has much more to do with the inefficiencies in the administrations in all of the government agencies in this state. As I stated before, since I'm the wealthy looking down on the rest I declare this part terminated. I am merely standing up for the struggling middle class worker whom can't afford all these demands. Defending them against the cruel, out of touch, wealthy elites.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 08:44 PM) You're wrong and if you were informed you would know this. Did you know that the 16% (not 20%) increase is mostly benefits and not salary? The 90k number you came up with is if it's all salary. No, we are informed (each time we pay for all this in taxes). If you were informed, you would know those benefits aren't free. In the end It doesn't matter if it's salary or some gold plated entitlement it goes into.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 08:29 PM) Heard Paul Vallas on Roe and Roper on drive home and he said even if strike ends today, next year CPS is 1 billion in the hole. If true, how in God's green earth can the city afford that outside of pulling a Pat Quinn/Blago and sell bonds to finance the operating budget? Next year should be interesting. the teachers are totally out of touch with reality. the wealthy entitlement class looking down at the masses, "let them eat cake".

QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 08:29 PM) This is totally inaccurate. They just want a say in how they are evaluated so a principal isn't the only person who determines if they are an effective teacher. The current system allows a principal to unilaterally say you are ineffective and I can fire you. There is not an acceptable grievance procedure for a teacher to appeal the decision. not buying it.

we'll get it back

From what I heard the teachers are now demanding a 20% increase. So, that will put the average close to 90k a year? Also, they don't want to be evaluated in any rational way, and they don't want to ever be able to be fired, no matter how bad they are at their jobs. The strike has nothing to do with kids, it has everything to do with greedy adults trying to soak the rest of the city because they think they have a desperate hostage on their hands.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 08:03 PM) STRETCH ::barely makes warning track:: yea that was bad

haha ok

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 07:40 PM) Sadly, there's a lot of truth in this: yea that's a good one

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 07:30 PM) $74k in Chicago cost of living adjusts to $57 k in Knoxville, while I'm at it. The median salary in a city ought to be substantially higher than the median salary nationwide. https://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts...meamichart.html 74K is pretty good. 2 teachers in the same family are basically the wealthy elite

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 07:06 PM) Could you also live near your actual place of work on that salary? he can easily live in Chicago on 75k a year.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 06:33 PM) How was it a failure? basically, lots of marketing and product development, not enough sales. it's widely considered a Microsoft flop.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 06:31 PM) Like that social network phone that they sold about 500 units of nationwide? BUT THAT PHONE WAS KOOL AND NOT AN IPHONE. haha or the Microsoft wrist watch

seriously though , i doubt if anyone really cares if you like Zune, it's just fun to laugh at Microsoft failures.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 06:22 PM) Zune haha

QUOTE (farmteam @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 03:46 PM) Jon Huntsman is probably around here somewhere. i sure hope not

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 06:15 PM) I had no idea what "clippy" was until you posted it. I mean the fact that you need to laugh at someone for not having a device that isn't "cool" or what everyone else has. Who the f*** cares? Why is it funny that I have Zune HD? I don't get the joke. I don't laugh at people for not wearing Northface, or for not driving a Lexus, or for not wearing Nikes. That's f***ing s*** you'd see if Mean Girls or the girls from Clueless would do. Such a high school girl mentality of elitism when it comes to consumer goods. having a zune is pobably fashionable now. Apple is for conformist non-cool people. so you rode out the storm and won.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 11, 2012 -> 06:10 PM) See, that attitude right there is why I hate a lot of my generation when it comes to materialism. Thanks for being a perfect example of someone I hate, Mr. Genius. u used to use clippy for advice?