Bmr31

CWSOX, im done. I still respect you as a person and your views. I hope you still respect mine. THis "topic" has been bugging me for months, and i finally addressed it. I dont think youre a bad person, and i hope i didnt insult you. Still, i do not back off my earlier comments. Go sox!

I do live a higher standard. Just not to the level of my liking. THere is a huge difference when youre leading people and im quite sure you understand, as im sure youve been a leader at some point in your life. Do you have children? If not, and you did, wouldnt you want to set a proper example? When you lead christians, ever when youre NOT working, you should still be a role model.

NEver said i was better than anyone. That may be why i dont proclaim to be a great christain(yet) or role model.

LOl yeah and self proclaimed assholes make such good role models? Dude youre in the wrong field. Im quite sure God wants leaders of christians to think of it as more than a job, dont you?

Steff, please. do you understnad the true meaning of the word damn? The ONLY swear word i have a problem with is damn and thats only when its asking to damn something or someone. THEN and only then its using gods name in vein, cuz well, he is the only one who can truly damn something or someone. You can say damn 1000 times as long as youre not asking something or someone to be damned............

Interesting comment. Judgmentalism is something that comes from where, exactly? Who is putting themselves in the place of God and calling other people hypocrites? So I guess it is not the clergy who are throwing stones - and the gathering of the self righteous opinionated who judge others isn't meeting at my place. Not that I am suggesting that anyone is a hypcorite or self righteous or opinionated (especially on people they haven't met) - just saying the meeting of those people isn't where I am. Nice touch, the "many others." Always fun to allege a bunch of people feel a certain way when they are not named and do not own up to it. Everyone I know has been on your side for everything. And that would include me being on your side. DIDnt even waste my time reading past the 1st sentence. CHristians and preachers dont turn the mirror. Nice try tho, lol.

Maybe so, but i try to stay away from the word damn when its out of anger and i think leaders of churches or christians certainly should do the same.

cwsox, without getting all defensive, look at it this way. When i see or hear the word preacher, priest, revernd, etc. I may want to seek that person out for advice and i look at that person as someone i can respect. When you start telling people about your sex life, cussing, judging, etc.........you are letting people down who look up to you. I dont have a problem with you personally, youre a nice person.

they use damn in a certain context. when you say DAMN about someone or something out of anger, its asking to damn them or it.

Im not getting into a day long debate about this. Ive stated how i feel. I think its a joke that you even correlate yourself with the church or a leader of christians. Im quite sure many many others would feel the same. Dont get me wrong, this does NOT mean that i think you are a bad person. It means that if you are claiming to lead christians, you need to play the role model, and you do not.

find one post where I have used God's name in vain - find one. letr alone where I use the phrase "God" or "Jesus" or "Jeus Christ" as an exclamation or even words like "gees" which is short for "Jesus" after all. Believe what you want on the rest of my posts, but while you are lookinbg for the above, search for times that I do more than respond to things that others have posted as opposed to initiate religious discussions- then go through the off topic section and see how many of those I do not post in. As for as sexual matters, I am very much ordained but celibacy is not a vow in the Protestant and Orthodox church bodies. And I doubt that if I enagged you in a conversation on the understandings of sexuality in the Augsburg Confession or the Episcopal bishops' statement of 1995, for example, or the expectations of clergy in the Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Reformed, or other church bodies' written statements on expectations of clergy, that you would be conversant there at all. Now for your comment towards hypocrasy - and who is a Christian and who is not - your words, your accusations. Judgments like that do not come from this source. I will rest on the last portion of Romans 14 in particualr and the Pauline teaching on grace in general for everyone. And I am also copmfortable in that no one who knows me here shares in your statements. That is reserved for you alone. DAMN is the exact same as god **** and i could find 1000. The meaning is totally the same so dont even try it lol

BE GOOD son. WHat exactly does wsc do? I mean i like the kid i just dont understand what you are referring to.........

Be real. Thats all i am saying. I dont care which direction he goes, but the hypocrisy is a joke and i can guarantee you many others have the same thoughts. Im no saint and dont pretent to be one myself. I have no right to preach. Im speaking simply of the hypocrisy.

There he goes.....doin his preacher thing again! I dont mean to offend cwsox or anyone else, but s*** i dont want to hear about cwsox and being a preacher until he acts like one.......... just exactly how is a preacher supposed to act?????? i know priests have rules but preachers are a different story.....arent they??? Uhhh if you are representing the christian community and CONSTANTLY bringing attention to it, i dont feel you should be discussing your sex acts, using gods name in vein, among other things. Its total hypocrisy. Either youre a chirstian or you are NOT....

There he goes.....doin his preacher thing again! I dont mean to offend cwsox or anyone else, but s*** i dont want to hear about cwsox and being a preacher until he acts like one..........

Dude i have no plans or dreams to make money in vegas gambling. I may go hit the blackjack table occasionally for entertainment, but ive already been through my gambling phase. Its almost impossible to make money that way, let alone make a living. I will let the fools try that road............

LOL hmmm making money to drink beer would be about the best job on earth. Got me thinking here..............

Okay i passed........barely........

Ok well YOU my friend, have a job, so the 1st beer is on you!!!

By the way, 6 days until i leave. Sorry to make this a thread, but expect me to post daily on this thread. Vegas is my present and future, where all my dreams are going to come true. I have no need or interest in the past.

Define ok.

I was thinking where i might like to work when i get to Vegas and.......well.........i was thinking maybe i could be a male hooker and charge by the minute. Oh wait, that wouldnt make me much. Guess i had that backwards.

Ive had to stay somewhere else the past two nights. Electricity is still out. The storm was an eye opener, for sure.

maybe those were too big for ya bmr???? Any melon will do......... as long as i like her.

Sorry, Im just slowly getting back to myself. The new and improved one of course.......