Steff

Uggghhh.. Steve. You posted the times and dates. Figure out when that was... BEFORE the evidence that there was NO semen. This was ONLY when we had heard HER story. Heck.. BMR even thought he did it :dips*** Point... you're a liar. I'd say you're pretty damn stupid if you can't remember what you wrote an hour ago when it's right there in front of you What does my smarts have to do with this? Stop trying to change the subject and stick to the topic. Now.. I've got about a half hour more of work to do. I can go on proving you're a liar until then. Then I'll have to finish tomorrow. You're choice. But you won't win.

Yeah.. ummm.. those are in THIS thread, Stupid Steve. And already addressed with Clujer.. I know it's hard.. but please do try to keep up! Here's a few more of your gems though... From page 3: **Another lie of yours "No question about it. You have it set in your mind that she already got raped." ***And interestingly enough... you DON'T think he's guilty..? "I haven't heard anything to make me think he is guilty." So.. you lied about you thinking he is guilty, too. Sheesh. You're compulsive, too?You might want to get some help with that. Oh.. umm.. where did I say she wasn't a whore AFTER the evidence became public. Not nice to lie....

Him and our Cub fan friend can get a place in Florida together

You don't let the Yanks up for air.. ever. No matter how blue they are!

Oh geez.. game over

s***.. GRD. C'mon Boston.. beat the s*** out of these guys!

Poor Stupid Steve... will you ever get it..? I never said I "thought" he was guilty. Not once. Not ever. I leaned towards nothing until last week.. when ironically.. I leaned towards NOT guilty. I won't admit to being against him.. cause I wasn't :dips*** I'm sorry I busted you.. didn't want to do it. But like Kobe's accuser.. don't lie and you won't get caught LOL.. I'm a b****... well duh!! Tell me something I don't know. Thats it, I think we have to take this to Peoples Court or in this Case Soxtalk's Court where the honorable judge Jason precides Sorry Jas.. the case is open and shut. The evidence is overwhelming. Steve guilty, the b**** innocent.

Poor Stupid Steve... will you ever get it..? I never said I "thought" he was guilty. Not once. Not ever. I leaned towards nothing until last week.. when ironically.. I leaned towards NOT guilty. I won't admit to being against him.. cause I wasn't :dips*** I'm sorry I busted you.. didn't want to do it. But like Kobe's accuser.. don't lie and you won't get caught LOL.. I'm a b****... well duh!! Tell me something I don't know.

Nope. I'm just going to call you a liar. Page 3 of this very thread... "I apreciate you making me feel good about reading. You feel his guilty, I feel he is innocent. " I go to lengths to defend myself against people who TELL LIES! No need to tell you that you're full of s***.. you did a good job of proving that all on your own. Bla, bla, bla, YOU'RE A LIAR, bla, bla, bla....

Ummm.. isn't that what happened..? I just wanted it faster so Kobe could get his life back on track if her story was full of s***. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

If ya read the first three posts... you'd see that we were addressing all the rumors. My comment was that let's just get this show on the road and be done with it. Point is... I NEVER said he was guilty, and even said a few times that I thought she was full of s***. Which makes you full of s***. Don't tell me I said s*** I didn't say. I have no bias in this case. The outcome doesn't effect me or my life in any way whatsoever. Maybe you should address that bias because, as some here say, if you allow something that doesn't effect you to effect you.. you might have some issues.

You're right, Stu... Steve.... the case would be OVER by now and Kobe would be focusing on the season instead of this s***!

I am not going to read them all, because in the first one ya said the case should go straight to court. Well if it did that then we wouldn't be where we are now, would we. I will take the rest as wish-wash too. ROTFLMAO!!! Nice try kiddo.... Here's what I said: QUOTE (Koch This @ Jul 31 2003, 12:26 PM) Interesting. Sounds like it was forced for sure, but who knows, i just want all this stuff to come out in court. No kidding. Jim and I were just talking about it on the way back from lunch and we agree that the trial should just start tomorrow and get this out of the way. Forget this 6 month BS. I don't know if the rumor mill will be able to handle 6 months of inuendo's. Clearly, to most, this will explain itself as not wanting to deal with all the rumors. :dips***

Steve.. are you at all able to think hypothetically...? If so... go back and read my post. I didn't say s*** about this case... I commented on your specific comment. :banghead And no Steve.. I was not biased. I listed several of the threads up there. Go take a look. And yes.. I was 50/50 until last week... did ya come up with that "recently" thing on your own or did you type it in there AFTER I posted it.. ?

Hey Clu... you're a liar. http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7842&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7760&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7351&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7292&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7207&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7248&hl= There's more to. And there's a real gem in there where you were wavering...

Hmmm.. you NEVER thought he was guilty..? Not a possibility..? You sure about that...?

Well that's assuming she got raped. She obviously went to his room with the intent on having sex, and it is my opinion that she did so and then cried rape for either attention and/or money. But I think when someone says "what did she expect would happen", they aren't saying she's at fault for what happened. I think they're saying she knew what she was going there for, and she should just own up to it. IMO it would make her case more solid than saying she "just went there to kiss and he went nuts". At that point none of the information (no semen, other semen, etc..) was not revealed. So his comment was, IMO, out of line. Holy s***!! When did it become a crime to have a friggin opinion on this board?

Congratulations, you have seen the light. There's virtually no way in hell that he is guilty of rape, and IMO this should not even go to trial. And by the way, do not tell me that the archives are there, because it's only going back 10 pages on my computer, and it does not go back to our initial Kobe discussions. I am not a liar. Screw you Clu.. seen the light. I was never in the dark. I decided not to make a decision the day the news came out so that makes me in the dark? I seem to remember many others not willing to make a decision at that point either. Mine goes back 16 pages to the begining of September. Check your preferences. And while your at it... where is that liar comment I made.

I called you nuts because you made the comment "what did she expect". I think that was an incredible stupid statement. If I walk into the parking garage alone at night... and get raped.. "what did I expect"..? And if I meet one of my male friends at their hotel rooms.. and get raped... "what did I expect"..? If your mom or sister or girlfriend was walking to her car from work at dark.. and she got raped.. "what did she expect"..?

Go find it. Aint gonna happen... For some reason my "Sex, Lies, and Politics" board only goes back 10 pages, and it doesn't have our original Kobe discussions where it was obvious that you felt he was guilty. Are you saying you don't think Kobe is guilty? Oh yes.. all the archives are there. Now.. I say he's 100% innocent. His semen wasn't even on her. Anywhere. At the begining, and up until last week I always maintained that there was a 50/50 chance he did it. The morning of the prelim when we had only heard her side I did think he was forceful - because of the supposed bruising that turned out to be invisible - and said that IF he did rape her he'd walk because of her previous history. However, never, not ONCE did I EVER say he was guilty.

What the hell are you talking about? Reading comprehension issue? Show me ONCE where I have said she was definitely raped? Go on... can't. Cause I have NO IDEA since I was NOT there. I put MYSELF in Clujers comments. "Me and Jim..... " :dips*** I apreciate you making me feel good about reading. You feel his guilty, I feel he is innocent. Get over it. I never said anything negative towards you, and you turn around and basically are rude towards me. Ya call me nuts earlier, now ya say I have issues with reading. I have no problem saying I am bias. Ya seem to have an issue, ya think your not bias. Ha, best joke I have heard today. I NEVER SAID YA SAID KOBE WAS DEFFINATELY GUILTY. Wow, who's the one with reading comprehesion problems. I haven't heard anything to make me think he is guilty. Oh, and she is a whore. Ya know having sex with ex-boyfriends and going and messing around with Kobe (and yes she did, the whole kissing s***, don't tell me she just kissed him). Change her damn underwear please. If I was the defense, I would bring that fact up. She had semen stains in her underwear from two days prior. I would guess that she had more likely had sex with someone else closer to the time Kobe 'raped" (ha) her. Open ya eyes. Look at both sides. Excuse me.. I feel he's guilty..? What the hell have you been reading? Show me ONCE where I said he was GUILTY. Once.. just once.. c'mon... I dare you. I have looked at both sides. After the report that there wasn't even his semen anywhere on here, I think the entire Eagle County Law Enforcement Agency should be hung by their balls. Now you know how I feel... :dips***

Why? This case is obviously BS. Now back to my posts... ya know.. the ones where I used Jim and myself and stuck them into you analogy. The point of my replies.. NOT the KOBE BRYANT CASE...

Go find it. Aint gonna happen...

4,000 posts here and she has to keep some of us nut balls on the AOL board in line. OMG.. I JUST figured out who you are. I'm not trying to hide my identity, even though there is only one person on the AOL board who knows what I look like. I got nuttin' to hide. Hope you didn't think I was Kark or Rosebowl. Oh no. I knew you weren't them. Thank God they're not here.. Kark would reduce many here to tears

Check back to about... June to August maybe. I think it was Killa that posted the links. Him or Southsider. Maybe they can directly you quickly to them.