NorthSideSox72

Nevermind, Posey is gone.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 01:35 PM) Jeff Berry. Doesn't he represent a couple Sox guys? With a good relationship, I thought?

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 01:18 PM) Why exactly are they letting the clock go down. They know who they want to pick. This is dumb. When the forces of ESPN and Bud Selig combine, you get SUUUUUUUUUUUUPER DUMB!

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 01:07 PM) It will take 10 years to develop ANY new energy source in a big way, give or take. It might as well be something that won't bankrupt the country's future.

A commercial while they are on the clock for the first pick? Seriously?

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 12:02 PM) Because the whole time last year, everyone was saying that we were definitley going to come out of our offensive slump as a team. It didn't happen, and it's carried over to this year, and they are STILL mildly struggling. There's a good chance PK and Thome will never be the same again, after the last 2 seasons they've put together. Dude, look at 2007. The reason the offense never came around is because of how many lousy players were in the lineups. Andy Gonzalez? Luis Terrero? Jerry Owens? Juan Uribe? Hall the bad version? And those guys played a LOT. PK and Thome, as has been pointed out before, actually had seasons in 2007 that were FAR better than they are having now. And as a team, the 2007 club was out of contention in May. This club is in FIRST in May. And that's not even getting into the fact that this team is leading the world in pitching, as opposed to near dead last. Seriously, comparing this team to 2007 is just a bad joke.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 12:58 PM) I don't know what that means. Everyone was saying the same thing all last year and even some into 2006. At some point, you just have to admitt these guys aren't going to be like they were in 2004 and 2005. Why? This team is at least as talented as the 2005 team, IMO. Just in different areas. So why on earth do we "have to admitt" that these guys aren't going to do well? Its just as silly, if not sillier (since we're in first, in June), as telling people they "have to admitt" that the team is going to win the division.

Extracting some oil from a few fields in the US may not be the worst idea ever, if it can be done in a controlled fashion, without doing irreparable harm to the environment. But the idea that doing such a thing would make the US energy indepedant is a joke. Oil is not the answer. Oil is limited, in a big way, and if we keep trying to extract more on the back side of the resource peak, that will be a huge mistake. Alternatives are needed, and the price of oil needs to stay high for that to come to fruition in a timely manner. If it doesn't happen in a timely manner, we are dooming this country economically on an enormous scale. If you want the US economy to be strong for generations to come, you HAVE to emphasize alternative energy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) You know what bothers me the most about this statement? I've heard a paraphrase of it before. The first election I voted in, in fact. 2 candidates, some pretty major differences, but an awful lot of people in the media and elsewhere investing time saying "Oh, Mr. Bush can't possibly do the things he's proposing". Ralph Nader going off and saying that the 2 candidates were basically the same, the media pounding that message in, editorials saying that Mr. Bush's tax plan is never going to get through and was only out there to pander to the right wing but he'd certainly moderate once he got in to office. I'm sure John McCain doesn't mean any of the things he says about the military necessity of going after Iran, or how keeping an occupation force in the heart of the middle east (with or without violence) for years would be a good idea. There's an old saying in Texas, I don't know if it's in Tennessee but I know it's in Texas that goes fool me once, shame on, shame on you, 8 second pause, fool you can't get fooled again. And Mr. Bish DIDN'T do most of the things he promised. His was truly a failed Presidency, even if you agreed with the conservative agenda. He never mentioned going to war in the Middle East, or any of that - he reacted. Badly yes, but, I don't think he saw 9/11 coming, and unlike some others, I don't think he was planning an invasion of Iraq either.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 10:36 AM) I'm supposed to go to the game tomorrow night, but apparently the weather doesn't want me to see a good Sox game this year. My first game was postponed due to rain against Baltimore, my second was a near-2 hour rain delay again Minnesota (and then Buerhle got hit around a bunch), and now its supposed to storm tomorrow night. Eh, for Friday night's game, they are saying "scattered" thunderstorms. Typical summer night type weather, it will be hit and miss. Even if it does storm, it won't last long, probably. I'l be going to that game as well.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 11:20 AM) I disagree . Cabrera=05 Uribe and I think that is being kind to Juan. They both bring different things to the table besides their .250 avgs and stellar Defense. Cabrera brings speed and 05 Uribe brings Power. He was talking about defense. And Uribe 2005 (and heck, Uribe 2008) is clearly better than O-Cab, defensively.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 10:16 AM) Fun little bit about Obama's growing fame in Kenya. The name Barack means "bolt of lightning".

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 11:09 AM) Hopefully they can resist the family oriented overdraft. I would be upset with this pick. The Sox do love their Stanford catchers.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 10:13 AM) Great finish last night but 2005? No way. For all the reasons listed above. Our old, slow, big-bopper lineup will be the end of us. More like: 2004. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but that's just how I see it. Well, at least you aren't calling it 2007 anymore. This isn't the 2005 team, or the 2007 team, or the 2004 team. With the picthing it has though, I think its a lot closer to 2005 than 2007.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 08:01 AM) As a follow up, CNN has a breaking news band at the top of their site saying: Now further info - it was Zimbabwean police and soldiers who were in on the action. Not pretty.

QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 09:53 AM) Quentin>Pods Swisher=Rowand Dye=Dye maybe lost a bit...but I don't think enough to warrant him being much worse than his 05 self Crede=Crede maybe lost a bit...but I don't think enough to warrant him being much worse than his 05 self Cabrera Alexei>Iguchi Paul=Paul AJ=AJ Agree, except for one. Swisher is not nearly as good defensively as Rowand. And before I get assaulted here, I am not saying Rowand is God-like out there - Anderson is better than Rowand. But Rowand was still above average out there, and I don't think you can say that of Swisher.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 10:55 AM) Agreed - which is why I don't take Obama at face value when he talks about the war - he knows full well he can't end it right away but he could never say that in front of an antiwar crowd. And on the flip side, McCain will probably end it sooner than people think. I've said it before - I think ultimately, the actual result of the War in Iraq will not be as different between these two candidates as their messages portrayed.

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QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 08:36 AM) Any word on Crede hand injury? X-Rays negative, he's day-to-day. I'd imagine it will depend how it feels today, but, I'm guessing Ozuna or Uribe start at 3rd tonight.

QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 08:03 AM) He has not shown who he really is. He has not been on the campaign trail...pushing the far left ideals he has pushed for his whole life. He is the most liberal Senator in the bunch. I'm not sure, but I think most are in agreement on that, and you just don't hear that when listening to him preach. Barack does the oratorical fireworks show with the best of them...but at some point...he is going to have to run on his record. Unless the whole CHANGE thing is really about him changing his lifelong beliefs and coming to the center, but I don't think so. As for Trinity and Wright/Pflegher, I don't think it has been beat to death. Those churches and pastors in the minds of myself and many others...are driving a wedge in the race relations in this country. Many people have fought hard to blur the divide, and those churches basically preach separatism and his wife's thesis is along those lines as well. That topic is very much alive. Oh and if he does win there's no way he pardons Rezko. I think I wasn't clear on the whole Wright/Trinity thing. I wasn't saying it isn't still an issue for some - I was saying that because its been so aired out, they don't have to make a big deal of it. All they have to do is hint at it every so often, to keep it fresh in people's minds. That's easier to do, effective, and makes McCain look less divisive, so I think that's the plan. As for not knowing him, it seems you do - as you are aware of his voting record. And I don't think McCain's rally speeches are any more an indicator of his policies than Obama's are to his. The GOP will, as I said, definitely try to get Obama to focus on his record, mostly because there is so little of it.

QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) More assholeism by Robert Mugabe. The opposition leader is being held by police: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/05/world/af...05zimbabwe.html Interesting to see where this goes, and what Mbeki has to say about it. As a follow up, CNN has a breaking news band at the top of their site saying:

QUOTE (JFields27 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 08:45 AM) i think hes 2-0 so far starting the thread by saying that, so I think hes just not trying to jinx anything Jinx shminx, this isn't Wrigleyville. FINISH THEM!!!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 07:46 AM) Its probably over the line to say, but I have yet to talk to a serious Obama supporter who could see fault in him. I am 100% serious. I don't think it is that the are to closeminded to understand, I think it is they don't want to believe the guy they have hitched their wagons to is the exact same person they have been railing against for eight years. He is a politician who will say or do anything to get himself elected. Sure his speeches sound nicer, but his actions speak way louder to me. Well, now you have. I am not 100% sold on Obama yet for the general, but currently, he's my choice. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 07:46 AM) Barack Obama himself is the one promoting himself as the candidate of "change", not me. If he doesn't intend to, that is fine. But it bugs me to have him saying one thing, and ALREADY doing another. It bothers me even more that it is somehow OK for him to keep pulling the same doubletalk that this administration has been crucified more, and no one seems to care, nee, are excusing it. I don't like getting preached to about how evil the Bush and then McCain adminstrations would be when Barack Obama is going to be doing the exact same things. Hiring Washington insiders such as Kennedy's and heads of equity capital groups to conduct your VP isn't change, and it isn't getting rid of corporate influence. Its the exact samething we have been doing for decades. You want details, here are details. There are plenty of Lobbyists working for Obama Doesn't surprise me. I just don't get how it is that you take his "change" agenda (which, by the way, McCain is now also promoting in his own campaign), and make the leap to a point where you expect him to change EVERYTHING. He won't. He can't. No one should expect him to. But honestly, if he can make some small but important changes, then he's accomplished something. Its NOT exactly the same - its SOME of the same, and some new stuff too. And heck, I think McCain would be able to say the same thing, to at least some extent. Its just not that black and white.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 07:34 AM) So much for this being the probama thread. Discussion is fine.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 11:48 PM) Posey... eh, what's his potential, .285, 15-20 homers, good to great defense and he should walk a bit so a decent OBP. With the no. 8 pick I want someone with star potential and I don't think that guy is Posey. Give me Smoak. Even if he is "just" .285, 15-20 homers, and good to great D at catcher... do you realize how valuable that is? How many catchers are there at any given time in baseball who do that? 1 or 2, maybe 3? That is a FANTASTIC line for a major league catcher.