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15 innings without a run. 2 runs in our last 25 innings.

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 03:24 PM) I said that I said it's dumb to swing 2-0. I didn't say that you said it's dumb to swing 2-0 Hold on, I got a headache reading that.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 03:23 PM) 2-0 is the best pitch to hit....the hitters just suck this year. Clearly Ozzie's fault.

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 03:20 PM) And yet 2 weeks ago when I said that the Sox are dumb for swinging 2-0, people laughed at me. I don't recall saying 2-0 is dumb to swing at, because it's a good pitch to hit most of the time. But to our hitters, a good pitch to hit is usually fouled off or popped up.

And Uribe still stinks. 2-0 pop outs. Gotta love it.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 03:15 PM) Nope, he's the one who never gave Gload a shot to prove what he can do as a leadoff hitter when Pods was horrible during the 2nd half last year. KW and Ozzie should be clumped together, as they're the two people making all the decision on and off the field. 110 games in 04, 77 games in 06?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 03:10 PM) I wouldn't use Sisco and Molina in your argument, as those were two players that had a direct connection to Ozzie's managing. However, it's games like today that make me appreciate that Toby Hall got some practice at 1B during spring training. And FWIW, Cintron's been all but begging to get put on the DL all season, but Ozzie doesn't want to due to having no other back-up SS. I've never said this is all Ozzie's fault. Him and KW have had a horrendous season. My goodness. All you do is clump Ozzie and KW together all the time. None of it is Ozzie's fault. He's the one who said "Get Gload out of here and get me that tall flamethrower from the Royals." Come on fathom. What the heck is wrong with you?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 03:06 PM) All I'm saying is that if he has such a tough time managing this personnel, then maybe he's not the right person for this team. I always said he was the perfect person for 2005 due to the players we had on them, and how we had to manufacture runs. However, he wasn't the manager for 2006, as bunting/small ball with that personnel was dumb. I'll get off Ozzie's back when he stops looking incompetent out there. Andy Gonzalez, Jerry Owens, Brett Prinz, Andrew Sisco, Gustavo Molina, Alex Cintron, Ryan Bukvich. There are all layers who have been on our roster this year. f*** you Ozzie, for getting s*** and making s***-ade.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 02:57 PM) Yep, I've said all along Ozzie has 100 pct say on the roster. I really wonder how bad things would have to get before people like yourself and GP start wondering about our leadership. This has to be the lowest point in over a decade for this organization. fathom, in can you in any feasible way blame Ozzie for the utter s***tiness of this team. We get the f***ing point. You don't like Ozzie. It's his fault we suck. He's a terrible manager. Congrats. But please, don't try to tell other people he is a bad manager because he has s*** players to make a lineup with. Please, don't try to tell people he is a bad manager because no matter who he calls out of the bullpen is going to get shelled. Get over yourself and get off Ozzie's back already. Do you think GP, myself, and others don't know that our team is terrible? Guess what, we do. But unfortunately for you, Ozzie Guillen is not the GM. He does not acquire the players on the 15 man roster. He might make suggestions, he might have a say as to the type of players he wants, but he certainly did not ask for this s***ty 25 man roster. Do you really think he went to KW and said "I want a bunch of .210 hitters who swing for the fences and play bad defense. Go get 'em Kenny!"

He needs to be out of a job right now.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 02:54 PM) I'll ask you this one time, as the excuses are getting ridiculous: do you think Ozzie has zero say on what the roster is? Nope, but he certainly doesn't have 100% say, like you make it seem he does.

2-0.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 02:51 PM) I honestly think Kenny and Ozzie made a deal with the devil to get 1 title for this team. We will suck forever now. I bet you it was the stupid Ozzie who started negotiations. We all know he dictates who the 25 man roster is.

f*** you Angel Pagan. I wanna f***ing cry right now. QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 02:49 PM) Your point... It was a flipping joke. Brian Anderson...Ozzie. Put 2 and 2 together. My god.

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 02:48 PM) Either way, Ryan is still too close to Brian.

And Gonzalez K's looking. Taking his average to a blistering .189.

QUOTE(POPPY_HIDALGO @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 02:44 PM) Plays like that show exactly why Gonzalez is on this team. Great range. Alot of heart. I hope they keep this kid around for years to come.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 02:42 PM) There was approximately a .000001% chance of a double play on that grounder. Pagan was nearly safe at 1st without the throw to 2nd. Great range by Gonzalez. Dye never gets to that one in a million years.

Nice job by Terrero on that fly ball keeping the runner at 2nd.

1-0.

LMAO, game over. Lead off double.

What a pick by Hill at the plate.

Oh my god.

I haven't heard Hawk this excited in a looooooooong time.

I love you Terrero.