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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 09:19 PM) You know, that's a sad point. This is so much less frustrating than that 7 game skid in August-Sept of 05...I miss those days. Tell me about it. I miss the days where losses would hurt so bad until the next game started while wins would just make me ecstatic the rest of the day.

EDIT: NVMND.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 09:12 PM) Yep, it was stupid to send him in that inning. At both points in the game, the out is more vital than the run scoring. If someone like Owens is out by as much as he was in the last inning, then that's a bad call. Point is, we hold him at 3rd, and someone would say why not send him. We send him, he's out, and someone complains why we sent him. At this moment, nothing goes without being criticized.

Wow, the Yankees are running into outs here. Silly.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 09:08 PM) Let's see.....Owens gets a bad jump, Cabrera is playing shallow and has an amazing arm, there's one out, and the Sox are down 3 with your best power hitter on deck. I hope no one would have been complaining if he held him. fathom, you know better than that. Someone will complain either way. Hell, Owens scored on JD's flyball the other night and you yourself complained.

This game is about to be OVA! Bullpen time. Who will stink it up tonight?

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 09:06 PM) Great, Wang has thrown 68 pitches, so good job in working his count to get to that Yankees BP He'll pitch a complete game tonight.

QUOTE(Brian @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 09:04 PM) Yup, Razor has to see the bad jump by Owens and how shallow Melky got that ball. Either way, SoxTalk b****es about it.

Speedy Owens with the stolen base. Speedy Owens got pegged at home plate.

Owens is speedy.

Nothing above 86? Solid.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 06:10 PM) Lazy grounder from BA to end the first. First pitch swinging. Looks thrilled to be here. He's batting 3rd???

QUOTE(AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 05:48 PM) He will put one on the board tonight. Errors go on the board you know... LOL, Greg Walker on Chicago Tribune Live.

Keep us posted Alex. We appreciate all the info you can get.

Ben Wallace can curl 185 pounds with 1 arm.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 04:23 PM) I suppose I disagree. But hey maybe fields can be in 10 years. we have that to look forward to! I better get down to the store and get my jersey changed. Which is why you would be excited? Not sure the logic I was never calling for Fields like a lot of others were. In fact, I laugh(ed) at all the people that believe Fields is going to make our offense that much better. I'm saying, you're giving him way too much credit for his offensive abilities. He's a great defensive 3rd baseman, and he is clutch when he is healthy, but he hurts our team overall much more when he is hurt than he helps.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 04:15 PM) wow, you guys must really think fields is going to be great, with all this excitement around here You would think we just got chavez to take crede's place. Crede is an allstar caliber 3b who is a clutch hitter. Fields is nowhere near crede, I am surprised that people would be excited to see our runner up gold glove 3rd baseman go down. Why don't we just call up all our farm boys, everyone here loves those guys better than the pro guys anyway. All these guys come up and have a good game or two and then the scouts file their reports and they can't hit or pitch worth a damn. Everytime we call these guys up we are at risk of not getting value when we trade them because teams know they are either not ready or they never will be ready. Sure, let's just ignore the fact that his back hasn't been 100% since 2005 and that he hasn't been very good at all at the plate this season.

QUOTE(iamshack @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 03:26 PM) Aramis Ramirez strained his left knee and left the Cubs' game against the Brewers in the middle of the second inning Wednesday. With the Cubs ahead 4-0, Ramirez grounded to shortstop J.J. Hardy and reached on an error. After Jacque Jones' inning-ending grounder, Ramirez walked gingerly off the field, accompanied by a trainer. Mark DeRosa moved from second to third, Ryan Theriot went from shortstop to second and Cesar Izturis entered at shortstop. How brainwashed am I? I initially read that as "grinderly".

I think I'd rather see Anderson in CF, Sweeney in LF, and Ichiro in RF. If not BA, then I really wouldn't mind the Sox picking up Erstad's option and letting him bat 9th. Ichiro in CF, Erstad in LF, and Sweeney in RF.

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 02:53 PM) lets say we trade crede, keep fields up, release cintron, and pods comes back healthy. what would the lineup be? pods LF iguchi 2B thome DH dye RF pierzynski C konerko 1B fields 3B (whoever we get in the crede trade) CF? uribe SS what do u think of that lineup, and who might we get for crede? If we were to deal Crede, I would hope we get some middle infield or bullpen help.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 02:42 PM) The Sox started out pretty hot last year too. It was the second half of the year that caught up with them Yeah, I was just about to mention that. The White Sox played pretty damn well in the 1st few months of the season, it's just that the Tigers came out on a tear. No one said that there was a World Series hangover, but it did catch up to them in the 2nd half for sure. This season is turning out much like 2006 and 2005, but with different teams. 2005: White Sox start off on a tear. Twins trail most of the year. Indians go on huge 2nd half run. 2006: Tigers start off on a tear. White Sox trail most of the year. Twins go on huge 2nd half run. 2007: Indians start off on a tear. Tigers trail most of the year? White Sox go on huge 2nd half run?

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 02:28 PM) ok lets say fields is doing awesome and is turning out to be a great major league player, but crede comes off the DL. do they send fields back down, or send cintron down? Trade Crede hopefully.

If this causes him to fall out of the top 2 picks, then the NBA is stupid. The entire NBA.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 01:54 PM) I am looking forward to Pods return. Problem is when we get one back we lose another. I am expecting Crede to go on the DL soon. I reckon we will have Fields up then. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59142

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 07:12 AM) I was listening to a conversation between our local (KC) sports talk host and Jayson Stark yesterday, talking about Piniella, along with the "interesting" Sheffield revelations (Stark admitted he hasn't talked to Sheffield for years after Gary disagreed with one of his columns when he was with the Dodgers). At any rate, he (Stark) basically argued that Piniella was "disengaging" from this current team, because he had been privately telling friends in the game that the pieces just didn't fit together in Chicago, that while there was the potential certainly, he didn't have "his type of team" and there wasn't much that could be done about it. Of course, now that rumors are flying he's lost the clubhouse, he's probably going to tighten the reigns a little bit, but Piniella has done a lot of player blaming over there...his "bring in some damn players who can play the game" and constant swipes at them in the press the past two weeks are not helping either. If you were Ozzie and had to choose between Bukvich, Logan, Prinz and Dewon Day to stay in a game, I bet you'd pretty much throw your hands up in frustration too. This is definitely not Ozzie's type of team, and I'm willing to give him a year or two with a White Sox team with a different composition...faster, younger, more fundamentally sound players. I think these "homer or bust/push-pull" teams are more a creation of KW and this annoying theory that White Sox fans have always preferred home runs and .500 teams to "small ball" and playoff contenders...or maybe, it's the idea that if the majority of teams are going to be "average," it's best to entertain them with offense instead of defense? At any rate, I think Ozzie knows the writing is on the wall with this team (the current version) and he is disengaging a little bit, which coincides with our second half slide and first half fizzle this year. And I think the whole Mariotti flap really changed him too, for the worse. That is one of the better posts I have seen in PHT in a while.