FlaSoxxJim

Sweet, let the sinful ways again commence I say - God's giving us a pass this time around!

I believe religion is the service and worship of God/the supernatural, either a personal or institutionalized commitment to faith in a higher power. And I think temporal aspects of consequences are relative. If there is nothing after your finite human life, then life in incarceration or voiding your life is about as consequential as it can get for you on a personal level. That is a lasting punishment if the standard of measure is a human life span. Sure there's an out in that the pennance is finite, but then again so is personal existence for secular folks.

Why would I give Him a second thought if it were determined that he doesn't? The Hindu Destroyer God is way cooler at any rate, so if I'm in the market for a Destroyer, the more arms the better!

That's the real question, isn't it. Is your motivation entirely extrinsic to your humanity? Aside from the Eternal Reward thing (again, a childish Santa Clause kind of motivation), do you do good just to offer it up to Him, or do you think that what the heck, good for the sake of good has its own intrinsic value for us in the here and now? My beliefs are firmly planted in the latter viewpoint.

The lesson being, of course, if some fraction of humanity is naughty enough, God's going to lay waste to the bunch of you (excepting Noah and his family), including infants, children, and other unquestionable innocents, because... Hey, He's God, shut up and take your smiting and don't ask questions or ask God to play fair... Did I get that right, or does my catechism need a refresher?

Aarghh!!. This is YOUR QUOTE, not mine: In what way did I mis-represent your take on a world without God as equvalent to a world without meaning and thus a world where chaos and immorality would reign and why not, who cares, etc.? The laws of man stand in the absence of a God. Societal values, mores, customs, taboos, etc., exist without the backdrop of Divinity. Codified laws can emerge from all of these through the will and work of human beings. Morality is real even if it is born of flesh and blood. I'm at a loss. You may pay your taxes because you are an American because you feel it is your civic duty as a citizen. Your naighbor may pay his taxes because he doesn't want to go to jail. The societal values and/or laws of man keep things chugging along. I may not murder anyone on my way to my favorite coffee shop this morning because I think it would make the world worse rather than better. You may not murder anybody today (even co-workers at your bank) because they like to execute people in Texas and between that and the ass-rammin' good time prison would offer in teh interim you've decided the consequences are not worth the action. Either ways, the humanistic morality and/or the laws of man keep people behaving within specs of a functioning society.

Ach! poop. Sox strand a dozen all night.

Way Magglio!

Clutch time Magglio. Please.

Come on Gload.

Never say nevver, but 4 runs is a big hole right now.

You guys... You make the rocking world go 'round.

Hey, I think Beastly can officially post again in 1 minute...

11-7, ouch!

walked on 4 pitches. :puke

Bullpen meltdown from top to bottom, come on Jon!

this intentional bases loaded walk had better pan out.

:fyou :fyou :fyou :fyou

K Lawton!

Here's hoping the Adkins Diet isn't made up of big fat pitches here.

Extras... drink 'em if you got 'em.

Carlos pops out.

K!!! damn, too much drama.

Finally. How about another.

Agreed.