StrangeSox

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You can add my wife's 86 year old cancer-survivor grandma to the list of Wisconsin SARS-CoV-2 positives.

I'm sorry the world has forced you into a shitty situation, as it has many other people. This is why Steps 1-N is sufficient public policy that would shut down dangerous activities like golf tournaments and make sure people like you don't suffer financially for it. Which is a fantastic example of why going on and on and on about "personal responsibility" is such a counterproductive discussion. You've been forced into a situation where you can't act responsibility to your community. That sucks, a lot, and it's why another 38k people were confirmed positive today, why another 685 died, why over 31,000 are suffering in hospitals and why we'll continue on with this same death toll day after day after day after day. But at the same time, rather than acknowledging being forced into this situation by irresponsible officials, you've chosen to mock the people who point it out and to belittle their concerns. So don't act all defensive now. In a country with sane public policy, we'd also all have health care without having to worry, of course.

You're being irresponsible. The rules you're following are insufficient. You openly mocked someone who wants the stronger rules we need. You're still mocking people who want to do what the actually successful countries have done, calling it "magic policy." Screw the people who think golf tournaments and frequent restaurant dining are acceptable and responsible activities during a pandemic. Childish, selfish adults putting their communities and collectively our whole country at risk indefinitely.

No, don't rewrite history. Your original point was that Balta was being hysterical and you likened his concerns about a deadly pandemic to being afraid of sharks in Lake Michigan.

It's important because we're shooting for 80% efficacy with the vaccines in reducing or preventing someone from developing COVID, the disease you get from a SARS-CoV-2 infection. They're not trying to get a sterilizing vaccine that will actually prevent the infection in the first place at this point; it's a lot harder to do and I don't know if there's scientific consensus/belief that it's achievable with this virus. But it's not the current target. So there's still going to be a whole lot of infection circulating around post-initial vaccine, maybe even more because now everyone is asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic and everything is fully reopened. That 20% who come up on the wrong side of the dice role are going to have more severe disease, maybe hospitalization, and they'll need these treatments. I think the limitation with these synthetic antibodies though is that they're kinda like tamiflu and influenza in that they need to be administered early during the infection to have an impact, versus treating a more severe case of COVID after it develops, and that they are expensive and difficult to manufacture. So we'll see supply and pricing bottlenecks. Still better to have it than not, of course.

People in this income range almost always have negative net worth and frequently can't pay all of their bills.

Somehow still not getting. The laws and policies themselves are wrong and bad and need to change. That is the most important part. That is what Balta was saying when you mocked him for being an "extremist" and equating his concerns about the unchecked pandemic killing thousands of Americans every week to being afraid of sharks at Oak Street Beach. You're frequenting restaurants and going to golf tournaments. Those seem to be pretty irresponsible things to do during a pandemic. Your sample county is in bad shape. That's why we need to start with public policy that doesn't let those restaurants and tournaments operate in the first place, so that irresponsible people don't make irresponsible decisions.

Oh for sure. You can point to some pretty drastic and ongoing failures from people like Gov. Cuomo, but ultimately all state and local governments were screwed without a coherent and competent federal response. Don't worry, though. Billionaires have made back $845B since March. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/business/us-billionaire-wealth-increase-pandemic/index.html

Public leaders need to be responsible and order these businesses closed. That is Step 1-999 on "how to handle public health crisis." Take the decision out of the hands of thousands of individual businesses and millions of individual people, because we know, very very clearly, that this doesn't work. Public health crises need public policy responses. When you focus on individuals during systemic failures, you'll never actually solve the problem. You fix the system.

A responsible public leader would shut down in person dining so we don't have to rely on thousands of individual risk assessments of what is or isn't responsible, especially when those individual assessments are informed by what leaders are demonstrating are acceptable activities. Remember, your example county in Texas is actually doing very poorly per capita.

The actions of shutting things down and sending very clear official stances on what is and isn't actually responsible behavior matters very much in a public health crisis. At most you're giving empty platitudes that excuse widespread political failures in this country.

This is why you're getting pushback. You're arguing for irresponsible policies and, through your responses, mocking the people who are actually taking this seriously. How many more dead, Tex? How many more before you stop with glib nonsense like "everyone's gotta eat" as an excuse for why restaurants should be open?

My wife's grandma popped positive today. Not hospitalized, but she's in her mid 80's. Hope Trump's come-down from his steroid induced mania isn't too harsh.

This all started because you mocked balta for advocating for stricter public policies. Just stop it

Trump has called off talks over any additional stimulus. Real bad news for tens of millions of people. If he goes on to lose in November, it's hard to see him signing anything during the lame duck period. That would put the prospects for any additional relief five months out from today. Nearly a full year after the initial relief.

DC set a record of new daily cases, likely due to the incompetence and malice at the White House.

"Who gives a shit about 205,000 dead and counting in less than a year?"

Unless it's him personally he doesn't give a single shit Maybe Ivanka but that's it This will get people killed. Cool.

Hermann Cain already died from one of his summer rallies. His Twitter account lives on, saying covid is nbd

It was to film a commercial