StrangeSox

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 04:51 PM) Even if Greg was right... It's not because of liberals or the media that there was a gigantic uproar over child rape within the catholic church. It's because there was an epidemic of child rape and coverup of child rape within the catholic church. You want to be mad at someone? Be mad at the people who systematically made it policy to cover up decades of child rape and protected rapist priests as the expense of more children getting raped. Don't be mad at the people who covered it or especially at people who brought it to light. Greg sounds like a PSU hanger-on right now.

That perception has been repeated so much because there are so many stories of child-rape cover-ups around the world. The fault for that lies squarely with the rapists and their abettors in the church's hierarchy, not with news organizations covering a worldwide scandal in one of the most prominent religions in the world.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 04:45 PM) It's way too simplistic to boycott CFA because the company makes donations to the organizations that author mentions. It just is. It's simplistic because it's a simple situation: eat at CFA or don't. It won't make some major impact in the world. No one is arguing that it would.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) How come nobody attacks Hollywood and TV producers. You'll still see the feminine portrayal of gays in the movies and on TV shows and occasional jokes about being gay in the movies. How come there's no outrage?? This is a full-frontal dose of crazy, but it's an example: http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) That still doesn't take away the fact there are zillions of good priests and good men in the profession who have helped countless kids. Yet because of liberals and the coverage of this issue, the future of the priesthood is dead. Like I said, becoming a priest is a no-no, a huge taboo. It's all part of the ruination of society. A good occuption like priest has been wiped off the map. It is not because of "liberals" and the media covering worldwide child rape cover-ups. It's because society is becoming less religious over time across the board, not specifically among Catholics.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 03:30 PM) Part of making a product successful is getting people to buy it. It also helped that it was a very good mp3 player. Those mp3 cd players were garbage. There are a million products that may be good but don't take off, and those companies have no one to blame but themselves. Apple was not a major player in the early 00s. The imac was kinda getting more popular. Ipod took off because it was a really good product. If you would have made a bet it 00 on who would make the next big music device, i would have probably bet sony. Network effects have also been huge for Apple. Being able to plug your phone or mp3 player into numerous devices in the home and car and get direct control is something only available on an iPhone/Pod/Pad because it's the only thing worth dedicating the resources to develop for.

I posted this article a while back. It's written by a college-aged Christian girl and was about the results of some national polling done by a pro-Christian but professional and non-biased research group. The number one thing young people in this country associate Christianity with these days is being antihomosexual. For non-Christians, it's 91%. This is an example of why that is.

Remember when we had to put up curtains to cover Lady Justice? Good times.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 03:51 PM) I don't care that you disagree. It's dumb. It's not "intolerant" to reject ideas that promote bigotry and subjugation and second-class status.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 03:46 PM) If the CEO of CFA had no history of donating any money to focus on the family and was apathetic about SSM but came out and said he hated gays the reaction would have been the exact same. GMAB. False. There was already a lot of existing animosity in the gay community directed towards CFA before this incident.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 03:39 PM) Well I disagree. It's a hilarious double standard. I don't care that you disagree. It's dumb. It's not "intolerant" to reject ideas that promote bigotry and subjugation and second-class status.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 03:35 PM) I don't know of anyone outside of crappy journalists who promotes equal acceptance of IDEAS. It's just a silly equivocation to try to justify bigotry.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 03:31 PM) Just keep ignoring the fact that the people supposedly defending the notion of equal rights and equal acceptance are the same people that feel so much hate and animosity towards a specific group of people. I know I've pointed out how silly the "you're just intolerant of intolerance!" line of 'reasoning' is before.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 03:18 PM) No, I'm saying the coverage was so intense and the fact nobody ever said this is not a priest issue only but a societal issue (scum of the earth pedophiles are in ALL FIELDS in which they can get to kids) to the point RIGHT NOW you say the words "Catholic priest," you might as well say the word "pedophile." Sad. Today there is no doubt no kid can consider being a priest. It is a bad word to society. Maybe they shouldn't have covered up child rape for decades?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) Im not sure this is really accurate. Most top 5 lists in that century have Stalin, Hitler and Leopold II. And the first 2 are responsible for almost 10x as many deaths as anyone else. Cultural privilege isn't the same thing as totalitarianism.

Cultural privilege lies with the majority. That's a generally true statement, especially in Western societies.

The next song I buy on iTunes will be the first, and I've had an iPod for 6 or 7 years now.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 02:52 PM) Yep, i'll admit i'm wrong there after looking it up. That's what so annoying about the "traditional marriage" or "marriage as defined for thousands of years" crap. It is complete fiction. The definition of marriage has varied frequently throughout time and among different cultures. Our own understanding of marriage in the US has changed drastically in the last 100 years or so.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 01:41 PM) I meant the physical marital act. Christ. The point of humans coming together as a social species, as opposed to roaming as loners, was to procreate. We've always been monogamous and "marriage" was a simple extension of that. nope, not even close

If you're for denying equal rights and equal access, you're a bigot. I'm happy that opposing bigotry is right up my wheelhouse. You're switching your arguments here, though. You said marriage started because procreation depended on it, which is silly on its face.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 01:10 PM) Right, and absent some clearly rare examples, same-sex marriages have no history until recently. That's his point. Marriage started because creation of a life depended on it. Every single other sexual reproduction occurs sans marriage. His "point" is the dumb belief that marriage has the same current definition now that it has for thousands of years. It's simply wrong.

what a remarkably ignorant statement.

Kelly and Huelskamp

Republicans are actually comparing contraception coverage to Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Sen. Inouye didn't appreciate the comparisons.