funny you bring this up..i went to the anti war rally a week or so ago in chicago..here is my story..
made up my sign, one side said , "god bless george bush and out troops" , the other side said "saddam must go"
...took the train downtown and got some dirty looks from some obviously anti war types going to the rally...on my way i must admit i got a little scared because as anti-war protestors who were driving by on my walk from the train station to michigan avenue would yell out the window some pretty vile stuff..besides the normal vocabulary of a bunch of drunken college kids who dont even know what they are really protesting for i heard stuff like "baby killer" , "war monger" and crap like that
at the rally i have never been so mocked in my life..some guy came up to me with a sign that said "bush is hitler" and tried to stick it in my face...i asked him if he thought of that all by himself or did he have to get help from his buddies...i was called every name in the book by some of the "peaceniks"...one guy yelled if i was so willing to send others off to die why didnt i go join up myself..at that point i produced my DD214 and showed him where i served this country for 7 years..told him i would love to go back in but at 41 and just having neck surgery i wasnt what the army was looking for....but if they would let me i would be on my way to training right now instead of standing here...he seemed flustered and mumbled something about yeah i bet you'd go back in and left..
this one girl came up to me and tried to tell me that war is never the answer...i said well do you agree saddam is evil and should be removed from power and she yes but we should it peacefully..i told you so agree saddam should be removed from power, now the greatest minds in the world have been trying to disarm him peacefully for 12 years but havent been sucessful...so will you please tell me how you would remove him , peacefully...she thought about it for a second , gave a deep sigh, then walked away saying nothing...
i did have a quiet debate with a few college kids from wisconsin...the told me we should follow france's lead..they seemed shock at the news that chirac and saddam have been buddies since the 70's and that france is the country who gave iraq nuclear capabilities...they had no clue who deep iraq's ties to france are...they also were shocked to know that the US back in 91 armed the kurds and the shiites to help them overthrow saddam only to back out at the last minute which lead to the slaughter of thousands of shiites in the south and the fleeing of kurds to turkey where 1500 kurds starved and / or froze to death...they really didnt know france had ulterior motives...
there was this one guy that had a sign that said "we support our troops when the kill their officers"..priceless huh??
one of the guys who was speaking single me out and yell out that i was a war monger..i saidwe are at war and what your are doing is hurting our troops who are risking their lives for us...after a round of jeers from the lovely crowd he saids that they fully support the troops..just not the war..at that point i pulled a 50 dollar bill out of my wallet and said if thats true match this 50 and we can walk to the red cross right now and donate to them...prove you support the troops...he said aomething abouthe couldnt leave the protest right now and he already gave to the red cross.. a likely story...
as i was leaving this lady came up to me and said that the bush administration is destroying the constitution.. how all this homeland security stuff was a violation of our personal freedom's and was making a mockery of our freedoms...at that point i kind of shocked her when i said well what's your position on the 2nd amendment..should the population be able to arm itself.???.she said well of course i am for gun control..the 2nd amendment is for a well organized militia and not for average citizens...i then told her so you are afraid of the government taking your rights away to the point where you dont want any added security...but you also want to take away guns from average citizens who also wont be able to defend themselves and neither wil lthe government under your plan..i told her that she really didnt think her position out very well
while she was searching for a response i also said that the 2nd amendment is there for the citizens to arm theselves against any invader foriegn or 'domestic".... domestic meaning our own government run amock which was her first concern when she came up to me telling me bush is crapping all over the constitution..after that she just shook my hand , said i had a well thought out position on the subject , smiled and left (should have gotten her number )...
about 7:30 i headed back to union station...on the train back home i felt it was a realsuccess..i didnt lose my temper and dint make an ass of myself..
see apu..anyone can make this crap up