Paint it Black

QUOTE (Baron @ Apr 21, 2013 -> 03:06 PM) That first statement is ridiculous. They havent liked this situation from the start. I love when you say its lying and havent backed up anything you've been saying yet. It doesnt sound like you've even read or listened to them in the past 6 years. I can tell right from the Rose comment. Besides, how does one disprove the liking one team over another claim? Hint: You're supposed to provide audio or text.

QUOTE (Baron @ Apr 21, 2013 -> 03:06 PM) That first statement is ridiculous. They havent liked this situation from the start. I love when you say its lying and havent backed up anything you've been saying yet. It doesnt sound like you've even read or listened to them in the past 6 years. I can tell right from the Rose comment. I listen every day. You're not understanding me. They have criticized Rose for not returning. Simple. If B and B had it out for Reinsdorf, wouldn't they side with Rose and that he should return we he wants (and not when the doctors and team wanted him to)? You're the one who says it's well known and have yet to cite a single piece of evidence to support your claim. I'm simply calling you on your BS.

QUOTE (Baron @ Apr 21, 2013 -> 02:59 PM) Well ofcourse it is. But he wasnt wrong about that. Wait, Hawk was right about his sabermetric rant last week?

QUOTE (Baron @ Apr 21, 2013 -> 02:58 PM) If you read the article that Dan wrote you would see that it was really the fact that Rose was waiting for a sign from God that irked him. They have called Jerry out numerous times for spending money in the wrong places and supporting one team more than the other. Right, and they both called Derek out for that garbage. If they hated Reinsdorf they would side with Rose, no? And pointing out obvious mistakes by Reinsdorf doesn't equal some long standing hate. As far as your "supporting one team over another" that is a complete lie.

QUOTE (Baron @ Apr 21, 2013 -> 02:53 PM) Oh its well known that Boers and Bernstein dont like Jerry. Lol it is? Examples please. Oddly enough they seem to have sided with the Bulls on Roses comeback.

QUOTE (Baron @ Apr 21, 2013 -> 02:44 PM) All the above Actually B and B have defense Hahn saying there wasn't much talent here to begin with and the slow start isn't his fault. The Chairman never came up.

QUOTE (Baron @ Apr 21, 2013 -> 02:41 PM) They were blasting the Sox the other day. And by blasting you mean pointing out obvious flaws in this ball club. I'm so tired of Hawk and its only April

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 21, 2013 -> 10:16 AM) The only conclusion I can draw from the Sox being ambiguous about their direction is because they don't want criticism. It's very unfair to the fans, imo. Say this for the Cubs, they've been upfront with their fans about what they are doing. I'm probably going to take s*** for this, but I don't think the fan base would get it anyway (hell a lot of Cub fans don't either). Of course the die hards will understand and ultimately stick by this franchise, but I think a large part of the fan base still is pissed about the f***ing white flag trade. I'm pretty envious about what the Cubs are doing, as much as it pains me to say that.

QUOTE (SoxPride56 @ Apr 21, 2013 -> 09:18 AM) I think it is more then just Robin's fault. Yes, he has made some (a lot) of in game mistakes. There have been many of times I am screaming at my TV "why the f*** are you doing this!!!" I have thrown the remote so many times, that now my dog thinks it is a game, and runs to go fetch it, and brings it back to me. Kind of nice of him if you ask me. But getting into why I think it is more then just Robin's fault. Outside of 2005, a year that every Sox fan will appreciate to the day they die, this Sox team just has been bad. I know they win the division in 2008, but that team had a lot of flaws, and only won because Hahn's son called the coin flip correctly. This is an organizational problem. From top to bottom. I understand we have made some changes, and it can not happen over night, but it seems like they are still attracted to the same, all or nothing, type hitter. I feel this organization is just out to be ok each year, and with some luck (2008), they will make the playoffs, and see what happens from there. That isn't going to work, not when Detroit isn't going anywhere for the next few years, and KC is up can coming. Being ok with hoping for luck will get you in 3rd place every year. Truthfully, I don't care if we finish 0-162 if we don't make the playoffs. What's the difference? A few thousand fans overall in attendance, and a worse draft pick? I know that rebuilding will not draw the casual fan, but those fans don't come up unless we are winning anyway. I would have no problem if we just tore it down, sucked for 5 years, and at least had a plan. I hate to say this, but something like what the Cubs are doing. Will it work for them, or any other team that tries it? Who knows. But what I do know, is this middle of the pack, average team year in and year out is not working, so you might as well try something different. Right now, IMO, the best thing that can happen is we either go on a lucky run, or we tank it. Trade off Rios, Peavy, and any other player that will fetch you something of value in return. Start the process of building a team that can win in a few years, get a top 5 pick this year. I honestly think it is going to get much worse on the field, before it gets better, but if that "much worse" includes the Sox having a new direction on how to build an organization, that is something that I am ok with. Sorry for my little rant, I just hate when we suck, and right now, we suck. In short, they're in baseball hell. Not good enough to make the playoffs but not bad enough for higher draft picks / rebuild mode. It's weird. I mean, I was born in 1987 and ever since I can remember (about 1994) this team was in the middle of the pack (outside of a few years better and a few years worse, but you get my point). There is something to be said (good and bad) about consistently being middle of the pack. I wonder if this team financially can't do the full rebuild because 7 people will attend each game.

Holy s***

The white Sox walked Aaron Hicks twice. You can't predict baseball....

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 04:25 PM) Attendance announced yet today? I believe they said 22,000 on the TV broadcast

Worley keeping a throwing ducking meatballs and they're either fouled back or popped up. Get used to it guys. This team just makes tons of outs

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 03:35 PM) Oh god, anyone ever see this? This is pretty funny. Ozzie got tricked by the hidden ball trick TWICE in the same season.....lol. This is wonderful. The shot of the look on his face is priceless

Another stunningly bad at bat from De Aza

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 03:08 PM) Jayson Stark already proclaiming it "gave him chills" and that is Neil's "moment in history". Oh god, these people..... They can't help themselves. Stark has been on my pay no mind list for a few years now.

I'm sorry that was terrible and the sweet Caroline tradition is dumb anyway

I might sound like an asshole, but Fox going to Boston without a split screen sucks

QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 02:33 PM) Who's doing the White Sox game? I have Tigers-Angels. Blyleven with analysis and someone I don't recognize doing PBP

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 02:19 PM) Worley looks terrible. Also, thank god for no Hawk. As someone who hates Hawk, give me him over the guy who is yelling.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 06:49 PM) Last Sox first round pick not to appear in a game for the team I believe was Royce Ring, no? Jason Stumm was the last not to appear in a major league game I think. I don't think Kyle McCulloch ever made it up, but I'm too lazy to double check.

Nothing like having your cable go out right before the Vicideo double. f*** Comcast. Also, apparently I missed a second Alexei walk AND a sac fly. I still don't believe it

I'm shocked RV isn't hunting here considering he had Alexei hunting last Friday in a similar situation

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 08:25 PM) Greg Walker FTW. Heh, remember when he ruined Beckham? Good times.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 08:25 PM) Greg Walker FTW. Heh, remember when he ruined Beckham? Good times.