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It’s simple, they executed their three year plan versus failing it. They wouldn’t be out of the woods just yet though because they need more than just one of these two, they need the continued development of their prospects to pan out for once.

So are you saying we offered the same or less than what the Yankees are?

Yes, I would have them rather sat out, used their time and efforts elsewhere rather than coming in second if they knew in advance they didn’t have the approval to throw the necessary money out to land him ahead of time. It was no secret Machado has love for the NYY and a record breaking offer was needed to sway him elsewhere.

That would be the only way I would trade for him is if you could do an agreement to sign and trade. I wouldn’t hope and pray for a Goldschmidt situation to where he could just walk the next offseason.

I believe it was said at this winter meeting by both Hahn and KW was that this wasn’t a thought up process over night, that they had been planning for this specific offseason/winter meeting for 3 years now and to strike out swinging while applaudable at trying, it just isn’t good enough when you come out saying that this plan was in motion for 3 years now.

Hopes of the front office getting shaken up is about as likely to happen as the Sox landing Mike Trout tomorrow. Reinsdorf does not do these type of things, hence why GarPax have been in charge for so long with the Bulls and why KW/Hahn has been there for so long for the Sox. If these were any other organization that actually cared about winning instead of making a dollar I would agree about the shake up, I just don’t see that changing here anytime soon

That would be nice as long as there is years of control behind the player, if it’s a trade that you only get one or two years of control and then they are a free agent that would be insane/bad, I don’t believe we are in a position to ship out the prospects required for a future core piece right now unfortunately

Yeah I think some people thought that if they didn’t land one of these two that the Sox were going to try and pull off a trade of some sort to land someone or anyone of any kind to help save face. This however would be a mistake in my eyes

Their plan B this whole time has been to stay the course in the rebuild.

Are you so sure the team that has notoriously been known to be stingy with money was really willing to sign him to a record breaking deal? Even if they did, being able to convince fans otherwise of this will be hard to do because of the continuous years of Reinsdorf not wanting to pay players. Ownership has used payroll for this team like it’s living in a small market city such as Oklahoma City.

See what fathom said above. There is no reason to leak it, they will be roasted in the meantime and lose all leverage in any trade they may or may not be working on.

If this dude knows, there is no way the teams haven’t been informed in one way or form. There just is 0 incentive on the Sox behalf to leak that to the media

Why would the Sox be the ones to put it out that they are out of the race before they have to? They are going to be roasted when this doesn’t happen for numerous reasons

He reported that he’s heading to New York, not that he’s considering New York. Two very different statements there.

The “boozer” of all deals if I’ve ever seen one myself ??

I think what he is saying is if the situation was reversed people would be jumping for joy on this board. There is a big difference between denial and blind hope. The guy has no skin to gain in this, he has Oriole ties. But there are too many “coincidences” out there to where you can see the writing on the wall man.

If the rumor is true it will be interesting to see how quickly Boras uses that as leverage in the Harper negotiations to squeeze some extra millions out of the Sox

Yeah he doubled down on it saying the rivalry between the yanks and red Sox are going to be even crazier now with Machado

Well I’ve always felt that it the Sox were going to land one of the big two it was going to be Machado, if he is indeed off the board we need to back up the truck for Harper and call it a day.

Well if it’s true I’m sure Yonder knows already and he ended up telling the Sox it’s a no go and now this is where the encarnacion rumors started floating about

That is going to be nasty but if one team can wait it out it’s the White Sox, they don’t have to rush this, no reason to do so because if he doesn’t sign with the Sox we just stay the course we have been on. I don’t feel like Hahn has to have a deadline for Harper

On to Harper.....nothing left to see here

I agree, I would rather stay the course than add just to add and if not move the needle, encarnacion is 35, wouldn’t be a long term fit here

Just trying to figure out where he would fit at right now at this point ?

That would be the case with encarnacion if it happened, he got dealt to Seattle just recently this offseason right?