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2 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:
No other team in all of sports has that owner, so don't be too upset. Ohtani is making more than Messi. That's just crazy.
Don’t have the numbers in front of me but Steve Cohen will have paid close to more money than the entire Sox payroll on players leaving his organization over the past year or so then JR will have spent on the 2024 on the field product. There are plenty of owners out there that understand spending money will ultimately make you money.
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2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
Almost every pitching expert has come to conclusion he has roughly 3-4 more years of shelf life on the pitching side of things.
Still even then it’s worth every penny that they are going to make off of him. They probably don’t care about year 5 and beyond. At that point the money will have been recouped and I’m sure LA will have spent another 500 mil on a future player to join their team.
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3 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:
I'm sure people far smarter than me have quantified it and decided it's worth it. At that price, the Dodgers had to he bidding against themselves though. In a vacuum, it's an absolutely terrible contracts. That doesn't mean it will cripple the franchise or anything like that.
It will be interesting to see the financials of the deal when they get released but If most of money is deferred and doesn’t put a strain on the Dodgers luxury tax threshold giving them flexibility to bring in even more players then there is zero reason it is a terrible contract. Not even hating on teams anymore that do these things, just pissed we don’t have an owner that can’t understand in order to make money you gotta spend money.
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14 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:
How many jerseys do you need to sell to recoup $700M for a 29 year old coming off his second Tommy John surgery?
It’s not about the Jersey sells, just wait till LA gets a television deal in Japan for Dodger games. That alone will probably cover most of the contract.
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Just now, TaylorStSox said:
How many jerseys do you need to sell to recoup $700M for a 29 year old coming off his second Tommy John surgery?
Not saying his play will live up to the contract but they for sure won’t lose money on his deal.
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4 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:
This is by far the worst contract in sports history.
I’m sure it won’t be. They will recoup every single cent of it with merchandise sales and marketing. Plus the deferrals will allow LA to spend even more
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This just in:
JR offered 8 years at 600 mil with incentives to make it 10 year 700 mil based on plate appearances and innings pitched in year 7 and 8 of the contract 🤣🤣🤣
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1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:
Can't even imagine anyone buying a Sox jersey other Luis Robert, Jr., right now.
Who would it possibly be?
You can't risk Eloy...likely trade bait. Dame with Cease or Kopech.
So Montgomery would be the only other logical choice.
Those Naperville Nicky jerseys gonna sell like hot cakes I’m sure…..😂
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1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:
It’s not already that way?
Nah the Sox get like a 3% bump in that because of their current incompetence and mess throughout the organization. That alone keeps them in the media. Not their play on the field that’s for sure
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1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:
It doesn't but it the point was that Ohtani as a Cub would make it make it way worse . If the Sox are on life support now but still have fans visiting it in the hospital what happens when all but the most diehard Sox fans become Cubs fans ? The Cubs would own 90% of the city. No one would care if JR sold or moved the Sox . That kind of sounds a lot worse to me than another 5 years of JR. Maybe it's splitting hairs ,rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic and all that but the only thing keeping the Sox viable as a franchise if fans that care about them. You take that away and the franchise on life support dies of neglect.
You know the best thing that combats a superstar on the other side of town? Winning…spending money the right way and putting a winning product on the field. The fandom will take care of itself but of course when you have a cheap ass owner that won’t buy a star, management who can’t develop their own and a marketing team that can’t promote their own product then of course if the cubs land Ohtani they would own the future fan base. We aren’t the lovable losers who have people flock to Guaranteed Rate because of the history of the stadium. White Sox fans will show with a consistent winner on the field, that is proven…,but when you continue to put your own interests (loyalty, making money for your business partners, unwilling to adapt to the modern game, etc) ahead of winning then you get exactly to the spot the Sox are in….a future of irrelevance and incompetence from the top down throughout the organization.
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1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:
This is true... but given history of over 40 seasons, I'm prepared to take my chances. Hard to see how they could get a worse owner isn't it?
That’s what we’ve said about managerial changes from Renteria to TLR to Pedro and the jury is still out on going from Hahn to Getz obviously but many think it’s going to be a failure based on his previous credentials so I would be careful on saying the new ownership can’t be worse than Jerry…but it’s definitely something I’m willing to gamble on
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The management team is just giving Jerry and Tony what they want…a bunch of slap hitting David Eckstein and Chris Getz type of players
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Deal is official
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50 minutes ago, JoshPR said:
And he will be dead.....
I don’t wish ill will upon anyone but he is testing my limits
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3 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:
Let’s be honest, he was never going to pick the Sox over teams that are trying to compete.
Just counting down the days till we acquire the defensive guru Salvy Perez is all
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One less catcher on the market for the Sox….
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5 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:
Would most likely need another arm to cover 140ish innings after Montas inevitably goes down with an injury
Eder / Bush / Martin / Touki/ scholtens all in there like swimwear to cover down on those innings 🤣
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Wow a Yankees / Red Sox trade…
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25 minutes ago, hi8is said:
Montas?
Hypothetical….bring either him or Manea into the fold to give the rotation some veteran presence
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8 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:
I would probably keep Kopech in rotation, at least to start and maybe use Shuster as depth since he has options (first man up after a trade or Kopech gets bumped to pen). Also start Nastrini in minors with Touki just holding down a spot.
It’s a lost season anyways. I’ve seen enough of Touki and Kopech to know they aren’t MLB consistent starters. Kopech can be your closer till you are able to shop him at the deadline and it gives you the opportunity to see what the two kids can bring to the table instead of bouncing them around.
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3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:
Now let’s sign Frankie Montas to like a 1 year, $13M deal and call the rotation adds complete (other than MiLB deals).
This move Kopech to the pen and trade Cease.
Soroka
Montas
Fedde
Shuster
Nastrini
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2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:
Also, please pull a Merrill Kelly.
We won’t be that lucky. Every move this team makes turns into a disaster
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1 minute ago, ron883 said:
Ive always wondered if the Sox crowd will cheer up on news of Reinsdorf croaking.
I think the answer to that is an overwhelming yes….. but on the other note it just shows karma is a b**** for an owner who doesn’t want to spend money. No top 3 pick for you lol
Ohtani Watch: Dodgers sign - 700M over 10yrs
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Not in Japan where Shoei is the equivalent to Michael Jordan and that is all that matters in this equation