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16 minutes ago, bmags said:
All or nothing baby! No mushy middle
Narrator: "It was the mushy middle."
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I'm curious what the "hit" rate is in getting, say, #3 in 2024 and #10 in 2025 vs. #7 2024 and #1 2025. Seems to be the latter option would have a better chance at landing on guys with the greater chance of success.
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"Can you imagine a rotation of Giolito, Flaherty, Soroka, Toussaint, and Fedde, with Kopech in the bullpen?" - 2019 Soxtalk
Picking up a bunch of former first rounders feels reminiscent of our attempts at all of those outfield reclamation projects, though in this case we're cobbling together an entire rotation of them.
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14 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:
Is it a stretch to think the Braves got Kelenic to include in a package for Cease?
Feel like they would've just worked a 3-team deal if that was the goal
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On 11/29/2023 at 1:21 PM, wegner said:
As always with the Yankees....I hope it doesn't work out for them.
Looks like he's only under contract for this next year at $23M and then he's a FA. I want him to be good for the sake of fun baseball, but hope he turns into Jacoby Ellsbury for a year if he goes to NYY.
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1 minute ago, PorkChopExpress said:
I think teams looking to add multiple starters, including at least one of the top FA's, might also look at getting Cease now as a selling point to those FA's. "We're serious about winning. We already went and got Cease, and with you and him and [fill in names], we're going to have one of the best rotations in the league."
That's a good thought too, I like that.
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2 minutes ago, Quin said:
Cause if you a set a price and a team pays it, you take it.
Just make sure it's a good price.
Right, sometimes there are teams that want to make a move before someone else sets the market for them. Others may see these initial deals for pitchers (Severino 1/$13M, Reynaldo 3/$39M) and realize they're going to be priced out and need to get one of the best pitchers on the trade market.
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29 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:
Nothing Cease specific but Reds still clearly on the hunt for a top pitcher.
I wonder if we can get India out of them? /gr
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1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:
In a story years ago in Sports Illustrated Floyd was quoted as saying that he grew up a Sox fan and his favorite player was Harold Baines but he wouldn't want to play for the team.
Did he say why he wouldn't want to play for the Sox?
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1 minute ago, SoCalChiSox said:
I suspect even if there is somewhat of a market, we might have to eat some money to get a meaningful return.
Re: Merrifield, he's old and broken and right handed...which likely explains why the FO is so enchanted with him (along with the whole Royals thing).
This is so fucking stupid. Your 2B is Joey Ortiz OR Michael Busch not some retread past his expiration date.
Get a fucking deal done and address your RF and 2B needs in one shot.
Honestly, I'm not sold on trying to fix 2B and RF with guys that immediately slot in as 25 or 26 year olds.
As much as I've hated the inevitable that we'll sign Merrifield, I'm viewing this next year as a wash. If he signs for a year as a bridge while we get some other younger guys in and give them more time to develop, that might have more value in the long run, even if 2024 is putrid.
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9 minutes ago, bmags said:
No, he’s going to fall off a cliff and be out of baseball next year. It’s an awful signing by an awful org.
...sounds like an Opening Day starter to me!
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48 minutes ago, Jerry McNertney said:
Seems crazy to me. Thirty million for three years? I don't think Lopez is worth anywhere near that much.
For people that think we're going to sign the middle-tier starters to round out our rotation, take a good look at this deal for this caliber of pitcher, and now reconsider what our rotation will really look like this year.
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Didn't it use to be a thing that we'd make a big signing or trade the Wednesday before Thanksgiving for a few years running? Vaguely recall something like Thome being announced on Wednesday, might be making that up.
Obviously a bunch of new faces making decisions but maybe we get a little Thanksgiving appetizer again this year.
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1 minute ago, Quin said:
so is this our opening day rotation:
- Soroka
- Quantrill
- Toussaint
- Kopech
- Scholtens
Did I miss the Cal signing or is that just speculation?
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8 minutes ago, hogan873 said:
In related news, Jason Benetti is distraught that he won’t be able to talk about Naperville Nicky on a daily basis.
Obviously the Sox signed Nicky to lure Benetti back with the friends and family plan again.
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55 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
It’s not a good thing when you’re (Braves) giving up your 2019 and 2020 first round picks (make that three firsts in total). For a $5 million non-closer reliever. When you draft those guys you’re hoping they either become contributors, or trade value for a major piece. Yes, it was long enough ago that they shouldn’t merit special treatment due to their draft status, but it’s a sad admission nonetheless that two full years of #1 picks didn’t work out, even if they were both a little bit “let’s bank some overslot money” picks.
Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
2017: Jake Burger #1, traded for nothing. Gavin sheets #2, possibly DFA'd this week
2018: Madrigal #1, traded a piece that actively set us backward. Steele Walker #2, fart noise
2019: Vaughn #1, plenty of people calling to trade him. Matthew Thompson #2, going nowhere fast
2020: Crochet #1, huge ??. Kelley #2, going nowhere.
I'll take the Braves' draft failings with their perennial World Series aspirations over our draft failings and *gestures at steaming pile of s%*#*
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My personal hope is that he ends up in Seattle. I think he would be so fun up there with Julio. Wonder if they're still stung by the Cano contract but it seems like that's fading into the rear window.
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4 minutes ago, wegner said:
I was looking at that very tempting sale yesterday but I resisted.
I'm a sucker and easy money for Jerry. I pout and moan about this franchise, and then I'm over on '47's website looking for new hats to wear to the one series the Sox come to Boston every year.
It's an abusive relationship and I can't quit it.
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14 minutes ago, A-Train to 35th said:
Is this a prelude to Eloy getting traded? The Sox way......Jerry to Brooks " lets get rid of his jerseys before we trade him since no one will buy them afterwards"
The Robert jerseys are on sale as well. All of the jerseys are on sale (you can get a Keuchel jersey for $49 if you hate yourself and money doesn't mean anything).
Don't read into the sale prices for off-season stuff. They're just trying to move inventory to free up space and capital for next year's products. '47 Brand just had a huge sale on all of their MLB gear too for the same reason.
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6 minutes ago, T R U said:
The Orioles are a great fit on paper, young team ready to compete now. Need a top SP, they have assets they can trade without hurting their team now and in the future.
In reality, they are a terrible fit. They are reluctant to trade any of these high end guys, they have already come out and said they can't even resign their own players so like you said above, there is no way they would resign Cease for what it would take.
That's an interesting perspective, haven't thought of yet. So you're suggesting they won't be in the market for the hired gun to put them over the top, like the Cubs' move for Lester?
I can see them not making the trade with the intention of extending him, but they may look at the 'contention window math' see that two years of "win now" Cease is worth more than five+ years of "sustained success" with whichever prospects are being considered.
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Just helping folks narrow down teams that might be interested
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Like, we knew this was probably going to happen based on his national attention on ESPN and the fact we hadn't heard anything about an extension, so ok it was coming.
But to the TIGERS. Come on, man. What a kick to the dick.
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We are not a serious franchise.
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17 hours ago, Quin said:
The absolute chaos that would release upon this board.
White Sox: "Hey man, broke up with my girlfriend."
Soxtalk: "Oh thank god, she was the worst!"
WS: "but we got back together."
ST: ".... happy for you guys!"
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Morosi linked Whit to White Sox in Dec23
in Pale Hose Talk
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Meanwhile the Braves have also acquired Bummer, Reynaldo, and Leury Garcia. Baseball is weird.