MiddleCoastBias

Where's that pud David Kaplan now?

I just wish we could balance that with some outfield talent. Obviously the answer is to make some trades. What's the going rate on the trade market for outfield value vs. infield value this year? Like are infielders more valued and puts us in a position to get a better outfielder?

Jerry would approve this move as a cost-saving measure as he wouldn't have to pay full price for the tiny pants Ray wears.

Did anyone share if there's a "jump to last unread post" button like they used to have? I'm exclusively on the phone. I can't seem to find that since the update and it really impacts my Soxtalk consumption; I want to pick up where I left off in a thread, not just go to the most recent post and have to arrow backwards. But I'm also an idiot and I'm probably just missing it.

Yeah let me stop you right there, I've seen enough.

He's afraid of us 💪, too embarrassed that he left a winner

I have no stats to back this to and they may not even have the same player profile, but I've always thought Sosa was destined to be the latest Eduardo Escobar. A player the Sox don't know that to do with, move on from too early, and then goes on to have a productive career for a few other teams. I guess now we get to see what happens.

I was at Dick's in the west suburbs last week and popped in looking for Sox gear. I saw two full sections of cubs, full wall of Blackhawks, all of the Bears and Bulls stuff... and three women's shirts for Sox. I asked a kid that worked there where the Sox section was and he just shrugged and said there was no Sox section. They genuinely had more German national soccer team gear than White Sox gear. We're losing (or already lost) the next generation of fans. We need a reason to be in the stores, and for people to see the brand and support the team. Getting this stadium right is key.

Or this is what knocked the Red Sox's ask down from Leasure to accept Ziehl.

Conforto's camp have got to be sweating, running out of options

Thanks, I hate it.

And with Robert now gone, may I introduce the 2026 White Sox!

I can't imagine the Yankees are even contemplating Robert. Bellinger is their target, the talks are at a stalemate after the weekend, and these other names are being bandied about as leverage. This is just posturing, in my opinion.

Don't worry, he's loading up a post to name at least 20+ current players we should target in FA or trades.

I get that in principle but I feel like that only works when it's a report about an interesting team. If even we don't believe it as delusional fans, what rational opposing team owner is going to feel threatened by this report?

Agreed, I view this round of FA as an investment to earn a better perception around the league for when we actually need FAs to sign here in a couple of years. I'd rather get rid of that "ew, I don't want to sign there" stink on some B+ free agents so we aren't out of the running on the better FAs in the (hopefully) near future.

If I recall, the broadcast seemed like some random old baseball players that just needed a job haha

Oh man, this reminds me of the Covid delay and waking up at 5am to watch the KBO to scratch the baseball itch. Saladino and Palka representing on Samsung, woop woop

Minneapolis too. I was just there a couple of weeks ago for the Nats series. Overall pretty meh stadium (a little disappointed), but walking in from the street in the RF corner to an open concourse/plaza that leads down to the 1B-side seats was really nice.

I was the one to suggest this yesterday and I agree with many of your points. My suggestion was to bring back the red piping around the current logo, akin to what they had back in the '50s. The logo is still effectively the same, the brand image is still the same, everything is still recognizably "The Sox"... just with a little added color and definition. I get people may still view that as change just for the sake of change, or throwing out a recognizable logo, but I contend that it changes *just enough* to mark a new era while still retaining the Sox brand and identity.

I know this isn't the point of this thread but I'm going to bang the drum I've been beating for a couple of years - I think we see a soft rebrand when Ishbia takes over, and we need it. Blah blah iconic black and white logo, I get it and I agree. But I think we rebrand and add red to the logo like the '52. Keep everything else, just add red accents. Small/big thing but it'll signify we're making a big transition, hopefully from top to bottom as an organization.

Bonus upside to restructuring his deal and buying out those option years is that we can still trade him later and he'll no longer be viewed as a rental* (*assuming he continues to produce at the level that he can, and that he stays even remotely healthy)

Ok so I was in the old camp with "but if we give Harp-chado $600M, we won't be able to afford contracts to fill out the roster to support them!" And a friend finally convinced me - it's not my money to spend, so who gives a s%*# what they spend it on. Just spend them money. It's not my job to be frugal with someone else's money to make the business case for them. I don't care if we 'miss' on the extension and Robert gets injured again/has a down second half/turns into a literal pumpkin. Our payroll next year is a fart in the wind. Take the risk and extend him if it means a CHANCE at a better return if he plays to the ability that we know he can play. If we extend him for $20M and he doesn't perform/get that return, I won't cry for Jerry.

Sure things have drastically changed in Hahn vs. Getz. But Jerry is making the final decisions when it comes to contracts and handing out millions of dollars, and you can't convince me otherwise.

I get what you're saying, but he also literally did this for a bad Craig Kimbrel just a couple of years ago. The better argument would be that he doesn't want to do this again if he can avoid it, but I still don't think I can say that with certainty.