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    Sox consider shutting down Floyd and Buehrle

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 19, 2009 -> 03:53 PM)
    And Buerhle has pitched as much as anyone in his era. Why is he all of a sudden so fragile?

     

    Exactly, how many games has Buehrle missed in his career? One, and that was so Loazia could have a chance to win #20. And when Buehrle pitches on 3 days rest, he's stellar, so I'm gonna agree with DA that Buehrle is in no trouble of injury.

    The Onion is Awesome

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Sep 17, 2009 -> 05:26 PM)
    Why? It lowers the bar and his speech wouldn't be anything special.

     

    How does it lower the bar? The guy is 37th all time hit leader and has the most RBI's of any player not inducted into the HoF but is eligible.

    Prince Fielder

    in The Diamond Club

    Posted

    So, all this Prince Fielder talk that I'm not sure if ESPN just made it up to start Fielder to Red Sox rumors has made me wonder...

     

    ...would the Sox have enough bait to trade for Fielder?

     

     

    Going into 2010, their CF (Cameron), 2B (Lopez), and C (Kendall) are FA's, and if the trade happened, they'd need a 1B. And of course...

     

    We all know the Brewers would ask for starting pitching, so there goes Hudson and Torres, and you'd probably have to include 1 of Charlie Shirek, Jack Egbert (if anyone would want him), and Lucas Harrell. That's the given.

     

    So that means you'd have to give up a CF; That means you could give them Shelby, D2, Mitchell or Rios.

     

    Rios - You'd have to eat salary, and plenty of it. It might not be worth it, or it could be worth it, but you're eating a lot of salary for them to take The Albatrios.

    Shelby - Brewers might have interest in him, and if they did, include him.

    Danks - I'd try to avoid biting on including D2, because his being shipped could affect Danks resigning.

    Mitchell - Are we even allowed to include him? I know you can't trade a player until a year after they're drafted, but could he be on the 40 Man roster and be shipped or could he be a player to be named later?

     

    Now, for the 2B, you have three guys you could give them; Nix, Retherford, and Lillibridge.

     

    Nix - Has shown he could be a good ML 2B so you might have to bite on trading him

    Retherford - Is no slouch either and according to FutureSox he's kind of like Nix, so you'd probably have to give up Nix.

    Lillibridge - He might be thrown in with Nix or Retherford, but he's not going over one of those two.

     

    As for catcher, you have really two options, and only one reasonable one. Flowers and (maybe) Phegley.

     

    Flowers - At least this would mean we'd essentially turn Chris Young, El Duque, Luis Vizcaino, Javier Vazquez, and Boone Logan into Fielder. I could live with this, because AJ is about as durable as they come and is still going strong. And now throws out runners to boot.

    Phegley - See Mitchell.

     

    Now, that leaves one more hole, first basemen. And that leaves two guys. Viciedo and Flowers.

     

    Flowers - You might just get off including him as a 1B and C. If he's included though, you're not giving up Phegley.

    Viciedo - Would it be worth it? We might shut down our Cuban Connection, but Viciedo makes a lot to not be on our big league roster, this one wouldn't take as much thinking as the others.

     

    So that means a 7 for 1 of:

     

    Fielder for: Hudson, Torres, Shirek/Egbert/Harrel, Rios/Shelby/D2/Mitchell, Nix/Retherford/+Lillibridge, Flowers/Phegley, Viciedo/Flowers (Phegley not included).

     

    How would we coup our losses?

     

    We'd lose Hudson and Torres, so essentially our #5 starter for 2011. Who knows? Maybe Freddy has a resurgance and he's 33, so not incredibly old and a decent Freddy Garcia is fine behind a Buehrle/Peavy/Danks/Floyd 4-headed Monster.

     

    We lose a minor league pitcher who could be a #5 one day or a BP arm, not hard at all to recover.

     

    We lose a centerfielder, but we have plenty of depth to recover from losing one of those.

     

    We lose a utility player and Lillibridge, but which ever one we keep between Nix and Retherford can take that spot, and Lillibridge is...Lillibridge.

     

    We lose a catcher and we keep the other. We don't need one to be ready next year, since we still have AJ for a couple years.

     

    We lose Viciedo, but gain Fielder, so we lose nothing.

     

    What do we get?

     

    A lefty power bat that could DH or spell Paulie at 1B and a a guy that could help us for years to come.

     

    And that was a big write, I was apparently bored.

     

    Alex "Mother-Bleeper" Rios

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 13, 2009 -> 12:12 AM)
    Don't miss out on this gem:

     

    Guillen on his hitters failing to beat pitchers they have seen for the first time - "I mean you're not going to take anything away from the pitching staffs that we've faced, but we've been facing some pitchers this year it's like, 'Who the [expletive] is this guy? They don't even belong in the [bleeping] big leagues and they just kicked our ass.' I'm not going to lie to anybody. I know who beat us and I know who should beat us. We've faced some guys where they've called him up, faced us, and get him back to [bleeping] Double A, get the [bleep] out of here. That's how bad we've been."

     

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2009/09/oz_being_oz.html

     

    Awesome stuff, Oz.

     

    Heh, at least Oz is honest :D.

    Alex "Mother-Bleeper" Rios

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2009/09/oz_being_oz.html

     

    Guillen on Alex Rios - "What have I seen from Rios? A lot of outs. The only batting ninth guy making $5 million was me. This mother [bleeper] is making $10, $12, $14 million, he ain't going to be batting ninth [in 2010]. I'm going to make sure he earns his money. But right now I have to put him there because he's struggling. Next year, if we have Rios batting ninth we're in deep [crap] once again.''

     

    So, perhaps Rios will work harder to fix that swing now?

    Peavy claims to be ready

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 10:30 PM)
    :lolhitting

     

    I love how the Cubs are always doomed to mediocrity.

     

    The Cubs are like an expensive date for the Cubs fans.

     

    They spend so much money on dinner and movie, and then don't get any action later.

    Then, when they demand more things, the fans shell out more. But now, they don't get any action OR teasing.

    Octavio Dotel

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    So, since Tony Pena isn't Dotel Lite, what do we do with Octavio this offseason?

     

    I'm for resigning him, since he adds a strength to the bullpen, and Pena or Linebrink are the other options for the right-handed setup man.

    TONY PENA MAKES STEVE ANGRY.

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 3, 2009 -> 12:49 AM)
    Why would you say he had no future with this team?

     

    Because he was ready for the big leagues now.

     

    Paulie has first locked up, with Kotsay or Fields backing him up next year. Then, in 2011, this club has invested too much to not play Viciedo once he's ready, and since Gordon is here, 3rd is closed to Viciedo.

     

    But since Allen was just about ready for the bigs now, he was an attractive trade piece. We could have used him to get someone like Sherrill, or maybe we could have sent him instead of Poreda for Peavy, and we could have used Poreda instead of Pena.

    Why did we trade Jim Thome?

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 3, 2009 -> 02:47 AM)
    You don't have to sprint around the bases after you hit it out of the park.

     

    That, and the Sox don't have any type of left handed power in the lineup, and I imagine he's only going to sign with the White Sox or maybe Cleveland. If he doesn't get an offer from either, I think he hangs it up.

     

    That's exactly what I'm thinking.

    Chicago or Cleveland, and we'll be the much more appealing one to Thome.

     

    Plus, Thome can draw walks and be as well as hit the long ball. I'll take the guy who can wear down pitchers and then jack one out.

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