Eminor3rd
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Man, Wash is a bad team but they really did get some cool prospects to kick off the rebuild. I remembered CJ Abrams but I forgot they got Keibert Ruiz.
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Meneses with a single up the middle for the second batter of the rescue.
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3 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:
Will this season ever end.
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Four pitch walk to start off the rescue effort.
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Jesse Scholtens to the rescue!
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That was the single most hittable pitch I’ve ever seen a Major Leaguer throw.
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Mr. Banks isn’t a having a good go of it early.
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Someone named Banks is pitching.
Man, Joey Meneses was so good in 2017 with the LV IronPigs.
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8 hours ago, bmags said:
I still just don't buy that white sox player development is particularly more aggressive in swing changes and pitching motion adjustments. I remember TA saying he was barely coached until AAA.
Right -- it's not like they teach bad habits or anything, it just seems like they don't do anything at all. At least with regard to position players.
I've said it before, but every player that makes it to the majors with the Sox is essentially the same player that he was when they acquired him, just with more reps. If they manage to get guys that are so talented that their ability trumps their flaws, then they'll be MLB players -- but they'll never be as good as they could be if they were actually developed.
TA when drafted: raw, extremely talented. Good instincts, good bat-to-ball skills, but overly aggressive in his approach and prone to unforced errors on defense.
TA at MLB level: raw, extremely talented. Good instincts, good bat-to-ball skills, but overly aggressive in his approach and prone to unforced errors on defense.
Eloy when acquired: huge power, good hit. Quickly outgrowing every position, but the bat will play anywhere. Could hit 20 homers in the MLB today even though he hasn't played past AA.
Eloy at MLB level: huge power, good hit. Quickly outgrew every position, but the bat will play anywhere. Topped out at 20 homers due to no improvement in approach and the fact that he never learned how to move in his body.
It's the same with all the rest, even Robert. The guy still has no clue how to choose a pitch to hit, he's just so good that he's still able to succeed. But imagine how good he COULD be. Montgomery seems like he'll be that, too.
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34 minutes ago, SCCWS said:
Just my opinion, but It is 20 miles and 25 minutes between the Trop and Raymond James Stadium. It takes me 42 minutes to drive from SSC Florida to the Trop. It takes an 1hr13 minutes to drive from RI to Fenway. Again ,for Tampa bay fans to Trop is a walk in the park. Their fans just are not real baseball fans old stadium or new. Now the Lightning and Bucs fans are real fans and would go to St Pete or Clearwater or where ever to see their teams.
I tend to agree. Living in NYC for 5 years, it never ceased to amaze me to find out what people will put up with to get somewhere they really want to go. It's hard for me to believe it isn't simply a matter of lack of demand, even though it may be a mystery as to why the demand isn't there.
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8 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:
You both @Eminor3rd & @ptatc make reasonable points.
That said, even though the points you make sound reasonable, they are not consistent with the ADA act, which I have linked below.
https://www.ada.gov/resources/ticket-sales/
Tickets must be made available at the same time and via the same methods of sale.
Teams cannot require proof of disability to sell ADA tickets. For individual games, the sales platform can list text stating that purchase of these seats are for one or more persons in their group with a disability requiring an accessible seat.
For season tickets, a venue can ask for an attestation, in writing (though can also be submitted via the internet sales function), that a person has a disability requiring accessible seating.
In the event nobody in a group which purchased ADA seats requires ADA seating, the team reserves the right to transfer fans to another area.
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TicketMaster, the White Sox official sales platform, charges billions of dollars in ticket fees. It’s hard to believe they do not offer a compliant platform across their nationwide venues to accommodate ADA requirements. If the lawsuit accusations are true, it’s likely the Sox are noncompliant due to Jerry / Brooks’ ticket sales preferences, versus ignorance of relevant law.
Yeah I'm not surprised that there are major incongruencies between the law and the policy that teams adopt/justify and probably misunderstand through games of telephone. What I've said I'm sure is only partially correct but I can tell you is firsthand from several teams I've worked for. ADA stuff is unique because there is SO much out there that is noncompliant, and it just goes by unnoticed unless someone decides to sue. It really is a mess, and it's unfortunate because I think many really would like to get it right but only if it's relatively easy to do, and the nature of much of this is big and expensive. Classic situation where there just aren't enough voices pushing for those affected.
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1 hour ago, ptatc said:
I can understand the not being to automatically switch the season ticket plan as the prices may be different.
I can also understand not being able to purchase them on the website as you would need to prove somehow you needed them.
It's awful that hey restricted them to only the upper deck though. That's just wrong.
The problem is that they have to hold those ADA seats open for day-of moves. I’m guessing they probably have the minimum legal amount down there.
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Every ballpark operates this way. You have to have a certain number of ADA seats available for reseating each game, because the vast majority of those who need the seating don’t say anything about it until they show up. If the ADA seating was available online, there’s nothing stopping anyone from buying the seats whether they need them or not, as there isn’t currently any reliable way to check for that sort of thing.
It is understandably annoying for a STH in need of ADA seating to essentially need to be reseated every game, but changing that isn’t just a matter of making an exception — the way the ticket manifest works in Ticketmaster/ProVenue/Ticket Return/etc. makes tickets either available or restricted for a type of purchase by class, so even if a ticket rep was able to escalate the issue and get permission to make an exception for a particular customer, the inventory system can’t accommodate such an exception, meaning you’d have to open up all seating for similar purchase, which is just asking for trouble and may actually even be illegal locally depending upon local law since, again, there’s no way for anyone to realistically verify ADA status in a transaction like this.
The pain points are legit, and it’s totally possible the Sox are fucking this up in many other unjustifiable ways, as is their general modus operandi, but based on what is mentioned in this article, these are all problems with the system in general, and many of them are caused by existing legislature that is in place for good reason, I.e. exceptions can cause larger problems than the ones they solve.
In order to offer this group the same level of convenience and flexibility in purchasing that everyone else gets, there needs to be additional digital infrastructure in place to verify eligibility for those assets, and current legislation would need to adapt to it. I’m all for this, but I think suing the team is barking up the wrong tree.
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On 9/10/2023 at 11:24 AM, Balta1701 said:
Notice that Getz didn’t identify this as a problem with the offense, he identified not being athletic as a problem.
Which is what White Sox coaches and executives have been saying for, I think, my entire adult life at least.
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I acknowledge this rant. You are heard, friend.
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17 minutes ago, Tony said:
This is the full quote.
“When I came to grips with the idea of that idea that maybe I needed to make a change, I still didn’t know if I needed to, I started to talk to everyone in the baseball department. Just wanting to know what they were observing, what needs to be changed. Chris was one of the people I talked to, I talked to a number of people in the baseball department. Then I got convinced I needed to make a change. I started thinking about who’s out there. You don’t make a change unless you know you can improve. So I pretty much know who all the potential candidates out there, and there are some good guys out there, guys that can be GM’s, guys that have been GM’s. So my first feeling was I’ll interview an internal candidate then I’ll ask permission to interview these other guys. But then it moved me to the thought of what I owe the fans. And I think I owe the fans to get better as fast as we can. Speed is of the essence. I don’t want this to be a long term proposition. In the meantime, I don’t know how many conversations I had with Chris, but it became clear to me he would be one of the major candidates, along with these outside candidates. And then when I started thinking of the speed I owe the fans, if I bring in someone from the outside, it will take them a year. He’s gonna have to evaluate everyone in the organization. So you lose a year. And here I had someone inside and very very competitive and might have been the guy if I had talked to these other guys, so I the thought was if I got a guy on the inside that can do the job, why not do it inside and save a year.”
Thank you for typing/finding that.
I just want to say that of all the dumb s%*# I've heard White Sox representatives say, this might be the worst and dumbest thing I've ever heard, and the thing that has convinced me, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that this organization has absolutely zero chance of rising above dogshit for as long as Jerry Reinsdorf is involved with it. This is the single most hope-crushing quote I've ever seen as a baseball fan.
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4 hours ago, Spumoni said:
"It became clear that Chris would be a major candidate as well as these outside candidates. Then I realized that if I brought someone in from the outside it’s going to take them a year. He’s going to have to evaluate everyone in the organization.”
Jesus Christ.... F*** off Jerry
That can't be a real quote. Please tell me you made that up.
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I expect Beckham to replace Getz as Head of Player Dev
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Whatever they are, they round down to zero
The player development system is a total disaster, and if they promote the head of it to GM, there’s no reason for that to change.
The player acquisition strategy is so backwards it literally seems like it’s bad in purpose, and there would be a shred of hope if a totally new voice came in, because he/she could convince JR to change, but if they just promote someone who has already been cowed by JR, there’s no reason for that to change either.
Doesn’t matter if there are a few positive parts on the team, there’s no way to finish it with the above conditions. Might as well be the A’s.
EDIT: Sorry I failed the exercise.
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Dan Evans at least USED to be really highly connected in the NPB world, so I’d wholly support him for two reasons: (1) he doesn’t already work for the white sox, and (2) maybe I’ll finally get to root for an NPB star as a white sox player. Makes years-long playoff droughts slightly nicer.
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2 hours ago, palehose1 said:
I may be naive but I truly believe Getz Haber and Grifol are lame ducks. The President of Baseball Ops has to make those decisions, that was the dysfunctional arrangement before with no clear lines of authority, clubhouse snitches, blind loyalties, etc. Those factors are what breeds a bad culture. JR is stubborn but he is not stupid. I hear he is tired of this and wants to remove himself. And I don't believe that Dayton Moore is or will be the answer. You talk to White Sox insiders and these are some of the outcomes that lead to the disappointing seasons and JR is very aware, conforms what Lips sources have said. Again, I'm probably too much of an optimist but I dont think its White Sox business as usual. These were significant long overdue changes and I think there are more "surprises" to come. A new Prez of baseball operations will bring his own GM in. It won't be Getz.
I just think Jerry, on some level, knows that a proper external hire that knows what he/she is doing is going to immediately suggest that Jerry abandon his spending strategy completely, because it is completely ass-backwards to the point that you almost couldn’t design a better way to get less value for your dollar in today’s mlb talent market — but obviously Jerry doesn’t see it that way, and probably already heard those arguments in a more simpering/diplomatic way from Hahn, and clearly made the decision that he isn’t willing to change. So in his universe, he may actually believe he still knows best and just needs to shuffle the deck to appease the fans, and is looking to put another yes man in place. And if so, why not choose from his current stable?
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The Royals caught lightning in a bottle by having 7 prospects all hit at once, turning it into a single two-year window that interrupted a four decade run of total ineptitude.
28 teams saw this and realized it was a shitty way to try to build a winner.
The White Sox have been trying to emulate it, in every way, ever since.
Concentrating all of your assets and resources into a single group of players, at the expense of investing in an actual pipeline, and as an excuse for not investing in obtaining elite players from other available means, is the clearest and most transparently dumb way to try to win that has existed in MLB in my entire lifetime.
Jerry Reinsdorf appears to be on the cusp of doubling down on it yet again.
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1 minute ago, flavum said:
Why wouldn’t Getz have been named immediately if this was happening? I’ll wait for it to be official before I freak out on JR.
Bob nightingale tho
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9/20 vs. WSH: “There’s No Gamethread” Gamethread
in 2023 Season in Review
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Can confirm that Banks sorta pitched.