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QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 07:43 PM) Yay, we're good again. I'm happy, but I still hate Alex Rios.

Hawk's an idiot. Three feet short of the warning track is nothing to get excited about, you twit.

f***ing Rios.

Another one of Dunn's patented, "hey look, ball 4 right down the middle...oh, you mean that was a strike??" at-bats...

Ok, I'm in. Get Rasmus. I don't ever want to watch Rios play baseball again.

Little league failure. This is the dumbest team I've ever seen.

Gordon Beckham = worthless.

Iranian State TV: Cynthia McKinney claims American government assassinated MLK, JFK, Malcolm X. Hey Iran, you can keep her. Throw her in a burqa and give her electroshock therapy until she stops breathing. I'll never say a mean thing about you again. Promise.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 04:49 PM) Serious question, since we're actually seeing examples of this happening right now. Let's say you're a blogger/writer, and your work gets explicitly cited in the manifesto of a person who commits an atrocity like this one. How do you react? First off, here's a reaction of exactly that sort. Interesting commentary from Mark Steyn. As for myself, I'm not ashamed of my views in any way. I don't preach murder or hatred. If some whackjob writes a manifesto before shooting a bunch of schoolchildren, and decides he likes a few quotes of mine about how welfare sucks, or illegal immigrants should do things the right way, or about how America is the greatest nation on Earth, and he decides to quote me...well, that's fine. It doesn't mean I inspired him to murder. He's responsible for his actions alone. The guy quoted the US Declaration of Independence, among other things. That's not going to change my mind that the Declaration is one of the greatest things ever written.

Oh, I know it's a punitive approach. As a criminal justice major, I know these terms. And I'm perfectly alright with my approach being punitive. The system I laid out above is as close as I ever get to rehabilitation. I would very much enjoy a crime & justice thread.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 08:07 AM) That's still just a punitive approach, not a rehab/reform approach. What would you prefer? I'm not going to make assumptions about your preference, nor do I wish to derail the thread, but what would you prefer in order to rehabilitate people? Frankly, I think if you commit a minor crime, we throw you in jail and hope your experience in jail was crappy enough that when you get out, you don't commit any more minor crimes. If you do, we lock you up for a longer time. If that second stint isn't enough, you go away forever.

I like teenage girls. They're grrrreat!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 07:20 AM) Norway's system is not built on a premise of using punishment to provide justice. They're built on a premise of rehabilitation. And however we judge it...the numbers suggest their system is staggeringly effective at that. They have a recidivism rate ~1/3 that of the U.S. and U.K. Rehabilitation for murderers is bulls***. For some minor, non-violent crimes, it's acceptable. Throw the drug users and stalkers and embezzlers in prison for a while and hope that by the time they're freed, they're smarter than to try that s*** again. But if you murder or rape someone, you should be going away forever. The idea shouldn't be, "hey, let's help this guy straighten out", it should be "you're never coming back because the greatest crimestopper is incapacitation". Lock Anders Breivik up and throw away the key, and he will never do this again. Not to mention, it's so heinous what he did, there's no reason he shouldn't pay with his freedom permanently. I don't care if Anders Breivik gets out of prison at age 53 a changed man. He lost the right to rehabilitation. The fact that Norway doesn't acknowledge that some people don't deserve rehabilitation and only deserve total incapacitation is idiotic.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 07:03 AM) I've read that they do not even have life imprisonment, that the maximum sentence he can receive is just over 20 years. I can't tell you how much that f***ing infuriates me. 80 dead, 20 years. f*** you, Norway.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 06:19 AM) So what happens to this terrorist? Do they have the death penalty there? Hell no. I think it's part of the EU membership requirements to prohibit the death penalty. As for Norway itself, there is no death penalty. They don't even do life imprisonment. The maximum sentence length is 21 years. Basically, he'll do three months for every person he shot to shreds, and that's assuming he gets the max.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 12:40 PM) WellDunn hit the ball but I don't have TV so what was that error all about? Carrera sprinted back to the track, settled under it, and just dropped it.

Carrera's sunglasses still perched fashionably on his cap. Doofus.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 11:14 AM) who are you talking about? The only decent player in our farm system.

Are we gonna play this one today? I'm gonna be pissed if my weekend doesn't have any White Sox baseball.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) Rasmus has way more value than Viciedo does Value? What the hell is value? He's proven nothing in his three major league years thus far. I don't see much value in that. Viciedo, on the other hand, hammered the ball all over the place in his limited showing last year, and only continues to do so this year. Besides, there's nothing saying we have to part with Viciedo to get Rasmus, is there? And what's the peak line for Rasmus? Are we talking .280/25/90 or what? Or is he just a .260/20/60 guy?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) they hate his attitude and other character concerns. Oh, he's got an attitude? He really is Alex Rios: Part Deuce, just like I said in the other thread. Ugh.

If we trade what I believe to be our best pure hitter since Frank Thomas and a guy who's only getting better (and I am notoriously cynical of prospects) for a guy with a .258 career batting average, I'm gonna quit. Well, no...I could never quit on this team. I'll probably just cry like a b****. But seriously, this is so stupid. No deal for Rasmus should include anything more than Thornton. If Viciedo goes, we're the stupidest team in baseball.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 10:07 AM) Currently, I am leaning towards Romney. That guy's stances change with the wind.

Alex Rios: Part Deuce

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 08:13 PM) We can only hope (and change). Although, a termite in a yo yo is a better candidate then any of the idiots on the GOP side right now. No love for Herman Cain? Rick Perry? And then Allen West isn't running, but I pray to God he was. I agree that Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin need to disappear. Romney's every bit the smarmy, flip-flopping RINO that Charlie Crist is and Palin's just a moron. I don't like the left's obsessive hatred for her and her family, but I don't want her being the main face of America for the next four years. I'm hoping for a Perry/Cain ticket.