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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 07:28 PM) Well, first off, it was "justifiable" (just read the comments elsewhere on this board and the MSM) as Speaker John put a can of whoop ass on him, I'm sure that Obama is absolutely right as evidenced by most here saying he's done a good job on these negotations and it's entirely the tea party assholes who are derailing EVERYTHING on this. But his demands and tone of summoning everyone to the White House and having to "explain everything to him" of why a deal can't be reached was like a 13 year old getting over his first break up. It might help if he looked in the mirror for that explanation. You know, at the end of all this, it won't matter. He's going to get his way anyway. The voters will destroy him in 2012. He's dug his own grave and I think he's starting to realize it.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 08:03 PM) for f***s sake, you've been here a month. Stop making all of these dumb assumptions about what people say and believe here. You're not the first leftist I've ever met. And you're not much different from all the others.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 06:36 PM) Yup - MLBTV works like normal when the delay is lifted and the feed goes live. I love it MLBTV + APPLETV = Bees Knees. I meant WGN. I'm watching on WGN today for the first time in ages.

I haven't watched the White Sox on WGN in forever (thank God for MLBTV). If the game gets a really late start tonight, will it still be broadcast as usual? How does that work?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 06:10 PM) The closest I've ever seen anyone (either on this board or really in mainstream channels) saying that radical Islam isn't a problem is people saying "all Muslims aren't terrorists" or not being in support of racial profiling. ...I mean, occasionally you will have a buffoon like Michael Moore saying "there is no terrorist threat" but statements like that aren't really taken seriously. Then why is Peter King getting so much flak for his radical Islam hearings? I don't believe all Muslims are terrorists. I don't even believe most Muslims are terrorists. But I do believe that most terrorists in the last 40 years have been Muslims. I'm honestly a little comforted by you calling Michael Moore a buffoon. Thank God even some liberals realize that.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 06:05 PM) Right-wingers have an entire narrative built around being the victim which is hilariously ironic actually. "Liberal bias," "liberal agenda," "government" (even when said government is right-wing), etc. Everyone's always out to get them You wouldn't say that CNN, CBS and MSNBC have liberal biases? You wouldn't say that academia has a liberal bias? These things aren't out to get me; they're just leftist-leaning entities that I don't really plan on listening to. And government's not out to get me, I just want government, rightwing or leftist, to be smaller. Liberals, on the other hand, simply pander to various "disenfranchised" groups. The poor, minorities, immigrants, etc. It's a legal, yet entirely dishonorable, way of buying votes. Why is amnesty great? Because it'll get 12 million more Democratic votes. Lame.

It seemed to me like SS really wanted to point out this guy's affiliation as soon as possible. But where was he in the Mumbai thread pointing out the characteristics and affiliations of those idiots? Well, the question should be...where would he have been in such a thread, since it didn't get a thread. I just don't get why some people are so insistent on denying that radical Islam is in fact the problem. It's politically correct to an idiotic and dangerous extent.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 05:47 PM) The first bolded is a stretch but I guess since you're so cynical it's to be expected. The 2nd bolded is something that I don't recall him ever taking as a stance in the 6 years I've been on this site. But I'm sure you'll use this terrible event as some excuse to play the victim card. The victim card? Oh, right. The thing that all of leftism is built around. Gotcha.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 04:59 PM) Yeah, he should have not included facts to the case. That's something that should be swept under the rug regarding this whacko. Not at all. The dude's a murderous whacko and he appears to have held some right wing views. But I just get the feeling that Strange was elated to hear this news that Breivik was a homegrown nutjob, and not a Muslim radical as is to be expected with these sorts of things, and that now he had some more ammunition to argue that rightwingers are the real terrorists. And yes, rightwingers have done terroristic acts just like leftists have (the Weather Underground). Every side has scumbags, for sure. But the vast majority of terrorist actions in recent memory have been committed by followers of Islam. This doesn't change that fact, as much as some people might wish it did.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 03:39 PM) One of them sits in the White House, as witnessed by his little temper tantrum yesterday. I somehow missed his temper tantrum. Link?

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 03:45 PM) There is a huge difference between somebody who is against immigration and someone who would actually shoot someone over the issue. I'm not even anti-immigration. I'm anti-illegal immigration. There's a huge difference there too.

By the way, the immediate reaction to the Tucson shootings was that Jared Loughner was some sort of extreme right winger driven to lunacy by Sarah Palin's "bull's eye" ad. Turned out to be total bulls*** too.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 10:16 AM) Seems like he was an ultra-nationalistic anti-immigrant nutter You were just dying to point that out, weren't you?

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 09:36 AM) http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.s..._of_aggres.html more story at link, but that it the main jist of the article. This is the guy that earlier in the year sent pictures of himself dressed in a tiger suit to staffers. We have some really unhinged elected officials in this country...

Swing by Penn State. It'd be better if it was college football season, but it'll still be a fun pit stop. And I don't know why or where you're going in Jersey, but hit NYC if you can. It's something everyone's gotta see at some point in their lives (and even if you already have seen it, it's still a good time).

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 07:36 AM) You think she should have been executed for that? I think she should have been put on trial for treason. And the punishment for treason should be death. Also, I wish Jane Fonda would realize that her "Democratic, peace loving" North Vietnamese friends would have tortured and summarily executed her for making the same sort of comments about them as she made about us.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 06:44 AM) Yeah, I can't believe she doesn't get it after 40 years. It isn't like she gave them a bad review or anything that is fairly easy to get over. How disconnected from reality is she? Well, there's her major act of treason, and then there's the rest of her life, which isn't much better. She told students at Michigan State in 1970 that, "I would think that if you understood what Communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communists." Stupid sentiment, but hey, that's free speech. Regardless, if she was such an admitted commie, why didn't she stay in North Vietnam where they were communists? And then, why did she spend her life getting rich off of capitalist methods? She can claim to be a communist if she wants, but she loses a lot of credibility (not that she had any) when she then leads the sort of life she has and lives in the relative comfort of the West.

Hanoi Jane Fonda whines about QVC cancelation, claims she "loves her country" and has "never done anything to hurt my country or the men and women who have fought and continue to fight for us". I don't care if you oppose foreign wars like the ones in Iraq or Vietnam. Feel free to protest as much as you want. Doesn't bother me one bit. But when you go to the house of the enemy and pose with the very weapons that he uses to kill fine American men, and you come home and call American Soldiers liars for claiming they were tortured and having the physical problems to prove it...well, that makes you a traitor. Jane Fonda thinks it's ridiculous that, even forty years later, many Americans have yet to forgive her (and it's not just extreme right wingers either). Personally, I think she should be grateful she wasn't put on trial and then shoved in front of a firing squad. Commie rat.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 02:13 AM) I'm saying, there's no physical proof - only opinion. That's why you can't get a factual result over anything any religion says. Sure, you can choose to believe if you like, but no living being truly knows for sure 100%. Only the dead know for sure - and they aren't talking. That's what I said. It's faith. By it's very nature, it's not proof. But it's my choice. And as long as I'm not forcing anyone else to take this faith for themselves, I don't think it hurts anyone (not that you're suggesting it is, by the way).

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 11:19 PM) That said, for the non-religious among us, this is just the most extreme flavor of crazy and every other brand of religion that lies to the more sane side of that is still just a paler shade of crazy. I know you're joking (or I think you are, at least), but like I've said a million times on here, you can believe whatever you want. Your religion is between you and God (or the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Allah or Buddha or whoever). I don't have any problem with anyone from any religion until someone decides that stopping my religious practices is somehow core to their own beliefs. Rosie's Facebook preaching and creepy church attendance (Jenn tells me there's a Starbucks in the church lobby...WTF) are irrelevant to me until she decided to treat her first born like s*** because she chose a different path. God doesn't teach people to behave like that, at least no God that I pray to.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 11:14 PM) This made me laugh. It does bring up a good (if hackneyed) point, though. Far too often people just agree with what tends to go along with their beliefs (in this case, it seems Rosie only loves Israel because she's otherwise conservative, and that's what you're "supposed" to do. Please correct me if I'm wrong), without realizing the massive amount of cognitive dissonance going on. No, you're absolutely right. That's exactly what I was getting at. I have my personal reasons for loving Israel, and while I won't discuss them here because I don't want to turn this into an Israel vs Palestine thread, they definitely go far beyond "well I'm a conservative!" But honestly, with the obvious intolerance Rosie practices, I wouldn't be at all surprised if she actually thought Israel was a Christian nation. I just can't see her having such ardent support for a country of "Satan worshippers". The lady disowned her Catholic daughter for daring to travel abroad, for crying out loud.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 08:28 PM) With Obama in the White House? Sadly, you're right. That said, the American military still isn't a good entity to f*** with, and there's still Israel. Netanyahu has already said that Israel will target Mahmoud personally if he attacks them. And Balta, I guess it really isn't an issue. Actually, it's just funny more than anything else. Guy's a nut.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 08:04 PM) His domestic policy has largely been a failure, so he uses the US and Israel as distractions. Even though his policies suck, talking s*** to the big kids on the block is still a poor idea.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 07:16 PM) How can anyone really truly know what happens after you die? I believe in the Christian afterlife. I don't have proof. It's just faith. But it's my faith. Which is exactly why I don't care if you share my beliefs or not. It's a personal matter. On sort of a tangent here, I want to bring up something in my life recently that fully illustrates my disgust for intolerant, evangelical beliefs... My girlfriend (Jenn) was born to 16 year old girl and 17 year old boy who immediately gave her up for adoption. Her adoptive family was loving, caring and passed good, Christian values on to Jenn. Yet she maintained a somewhat close relationship with her birth mother, Rosie (her birth father is a non factor). As time went on, Rosie got married and gave Jenn several half-siblings with whom she is very close. And Rosie became a fanatical Christian. She attends one of those creepy non-denominational churches that holds sermons in a huge auditorium with enormous projection screens and big-screen TVs, and where the people sway back and forth while singing hymns (I'm a conservative Christian, but this and GodTV gives me the creeps). She posts three or four evangelical Facebook statuses a day, condemning everything under the sun it seems. She sees the devil in everything from Obama bumper stickers (crappy politician, not Satan) to Harry Potter movies (goofy kids movies I don't plan on watching, not Satanic works). But hey, maybe there's still a good person under all this nuttiness, right? Well...no. Jenn tells me how Rosie's husband got a big raise a few years back, but instead of putting the extra money into a fund for her children's college educations, she uses it to buy new clothes for herself pretty much every weekend. She thinks the idea of doing aid work, here or abroad, without mentioning God is a denial of God and an acceptance of Satan. Yes, if I went to Mozambique and built a hospital for orphans with AIDS and didn't cram Bibles down their throats, I'd be doing the devil's work. And of course, Rosie judges and condemns everyone who doesn't follow her beliefs. Oddly, she loves Israel as much as I do. Sometimes, I wonder if she knows they're Jewish. So here's the kicker. Years before we met, Jenn went to study abroad in New Zealand. She met and started dating an Indian Hindu man (who, from all accounts, is a terrific human being). They dated for several years, and when she found out, Rosie told Jenn that she wouldn't have anything to do with a daughter that would dare date a Satan worshipper. Jenn and her ex eventually parted ways, but Jenn and Rosie still didn't talk on the phone for years. Their only contact was a few very tense facebook and text messages. This communication heated up, and finally, after being challenged, Rosie called Jenn yesterday. It didn't go well. Rosie said that Jenn (a good, loving, and tolerant Christian if I've ever met one), doomed herself to Hell when she started "traveling the world and enjoying the company of Satan worshippers years ago". She said that she could no longer allow Jenn to act as if she were a Christian. Jenn told her to just forget about her, and being a total hypocrite, Rosie asked, "oh, you would just abandon your mother?" And rightfully so, Jenn pointed out that just popping her out of her womb doesn't make her (Rosie) her mother. They hung up, and Jenn spent most of today in the hospital due to a digestive issue she has. But Rosie harassed her via text all day, claiming she would have raised Jenn better than to be so "malevolent and selfish". I can't stand this. It makes me piss blood. I'm going to have the honor of being Jenn's date to her sister's wedding in November, where I'll meet Rosie for the first (and hopefully last) time. I've never been this excited about using my mouth to s*** all over a conservative, Christian person. I just want to know...how are being intolerant, abandoning one's offspring and harboring an intense hatred for the world God created the actions of a true Christian? How does she not realize this? What the f*** kind of person is she? I also despise Rosie because she is a complete embarassment to my conservative Christian beliefs. Literally. I am so convinced in my far right wing beliefs, and then I see someone like Rosie, I'm just incredulous about the fact that she even partially agrees with me. s***, I'd rather get caught agreeing with BigSqwert (). It's just embarassing having her on my general side. Ugh. /rant And when the f*** did Chris Getz decide he can play baseball?

Ahmadinejad threatens to send the USA and Israel to the morgue. I don't know why this guy insists on picking a fight with two of Earth's most lethal militaries. There's controversy about him simply obtaining nuclear capabilities, but does he realize how many Team USA/Israel has? Luckily, I think mutally assured destruction will prevent even a nutjob of his stature from launching nukes (not to mention, he'd come out way farther on the destroyed end than either of his enemies). But still, nukes or not, if this guy thinks there would be anything even remotely resembling a fight between the USA and Israel on one side and him on the other, he's sorely mistaken.