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But he has service time that we have ownership of. Why waste that? He's cheap and who knows maybe our new pitching coach will turn him around. Remember Giolito? Give it a shot. We're not championship contenders so let's take a swing at it.

Just return all the same guys in that scenario. That way you definitely don't waste ownership. Start Lopez and Cease again and see what happens. We're not championship contenders.

As long as it's for DH and not the outfield.

How many years and struggles do you think we are going to give him then? Also why not Lopez? Let's give Lopez a shot. Your good with watching them "develop" during the 8 run innings during important games right?

Here's a better question. Can we go through a year of having more pitchers with their struggles happening throughout the season? How many more years do you give them? 1,2 or 3? Why not keep trying in that case.

Times a wasting whether you like it or not. Cease and Lopez should have stepped up last year if they wanted to cement themselves in the rotation. That's why they didn't get a playoff start. Hell if your good with the rotation. Why not give Lopez a shot? Stop leaning on the bullpen too let them eat the games they blow up in. We can waste years for more development what's more games during the season?

Damn someone forgot to tell those guys to have patience! What the hell are they doing trying to compete for a World Series next year.

Yes yes I too would like to see Cease and Dunning in the playoffs. I would love to see AL teams that aren't afraid to start winning tee off on those guys. They won't take the time they have in the playoffs for granted like many on here do.

There's no guarantee Cease is even good. There's no guarantee Dunning is good. Both of them were spotty. There's no guarantee the sun comes up tomorrow.

Will we be sorry if Lance Lynn is starting game 2 of the playoffs after hopefully Giolito has a good first game? I won't. You know why? Because we'll have a damn good chance of getting to the World Series.

Lynn is a far far better pitcher right now.

Those are the type of trades your going to have to make to get guys like him under those contracts. Sorry it hurts but too bad. Like I said not all of these guys are going to be spending their careers with the White Sox. We can sacrifice 1 of them to give us a better chance to win a World Series.

If the argument is about sending Dunning or Cease especially Cease for Lynn that should be an easy trade. I'm not sure what the Rangers value of Cease is or the White Sox for that matter. But I'm not sure he's going to get a long leash from us either way. Dunning can stay or go.

I'm being ultra sarcastic. He's going to make money this offseason. In any case is he the pitcher we need? We need pitching but in an ideal world he should only be considered when any other option to add a front line guy is exhausted.

Herein lies the problem that's been there the entire time. The guy that makes the most sense for this team to acquire (Yes not a free agent) and everyone is balking about what would be a very reasonable asking price. Time to get out of that thinking. Some of these guys won't be spending their careers on the Chicago White Sox. Hate to break it to you. You have a guy who finished what? 5th in Cy Young voting right? On a cheap contract and is a workhorse. He fits right in at the 2 slot. "Oh god you mean we have to give up something of value to the Rangers for him??!!!!" Yes. Can we take winning seriously please? This is far more realistic than the White Sox shelling about 6-7 years 200+ Million for a top of the rotation pitcher.

Because Q is going to take a year for the same contract as Lynn.

People on here seem to have no issue punting on years of the window like last year. If a trade comes along and he needs to be in a package for a controllable pitcher they need to let him go. We need pitching ASAP. We could have used someone in the playoffs.

Not sure why the Reds would want Jeff Hoffman

Need some names to start leaking out

Yes

Well not to mention that you don't have to go far in his timeline to find info he's already been wrong about.

Ah ok. Thank you. I don't know maybe it's just me but i trust Jimmy on here and not much else. These supposed White Sox insiders going back and forth with a bunch of people isn't even really amusing it's just dumb.

Whos Schins?

I mean come on. If we're going to go down the rabbit hole with the food twitter accounts might as well believe Beggars too lol.

Exactly. His defense is actually quite good. Would save us quite a few runs over a full schedule. Also on Lynn having 1 year on his contract. I mean I don't think you'd have to break the bank to resign him either.